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Mounting Rear Tractor Tires

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Me Too! Best tool money I have spent in years.

Originally posted by Eldon (WA) Eldon (WA) wrote:

My latest investment...should have bought one years ago.
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Best way I have found is take it to the tire place down the road.
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Originally posted by Ted J Ted J wrote:

Eldon, since you are our expert on tire changing, how about a video of you doing one that way?!?! Clap Sure, just need you to come out and hold the camera...



Everybody else agree??


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Just had the bead broke on 50 year old D17 rear tire. Laid it flat on the ground and put the outrigger from the backhoe on one side and used the bucket to push down on the other side. Took about 2 minutes to do what would have been a good couple hours of work.    

I have used the highlift jack method to break a bead - but on old nasty rusty rims I've found even all the weight of a D17 isn't enough to break one loose.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote alan-nj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 10:28am
My father was in the trucking business.  About 50 years ago, I started knocking apart truck tires for him using the wedge below to break the beads.   I was about 10 or 12 years old.  10:00/20's with lock rims.  For about 10 years while I still lived at home I did hundreds of them.  No safety cage, and never had a problem.  Wish I had a coin for every swing with the sledge hammer I took at that thing.
I have the wedge now and still use it.  I have no idea when he first bought it, but is was well used when I started with it.  BTW, it was made by Ken Tool.  I guess they've been around for a while.
On old tires that are really stuck, gas will really help loosen the bead. 
Obviously the longer the tire has been on, the harder it is to get off.  Bought a wd45 last year for the tires, which probably had been on since the 60's.  On the first tire, it took me and my wedge, down pressure from the front end loader, and driving on it with another tractor over 4 hours to break it loose.  For the 2nd tire, I took it to the local tire shop.  Cost me $20 bucks to have it dismounted.  $20 bucks well spent......


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I agree with Eldon on the screw type bead breaker. It works where other methods fail, and is a lot safer. The professionals use a hydraulic version.y
I also found that the tire lube works better than anything else. I got it from Gemplers
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I just had the time to see if the tire machine at work would pop the beads and am happy to say it popped them loose no problem. I guess now I need a couple irons to get the tire off the rim.
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vegetable oil is my tire lube...kinda messy but no worse than the goop at the tire store
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Are you all kidding everyone. I was 22 years in the farm tire business you guys are doing this the HARD way. Do not use atf or grease on tubes, beads. Do not put gas on the beads it AIN`T going to help, it too is a petroleum product and will eventually cause rubber deteriation. Buy a jug of rubber lube from NAPA. It isnt the slickest rubber lube but it is usually in stock. It is far slicker than dish soap. If you are buying new tubes, only buy the HEAVY DUTY RADIAL tubes. They are the only tubes that are any good.
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I agree, I wanna see a vid of Eldon werking!
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Had an old-timer teach me how to do truck tires years ago.   Made his own lube, bottle of Dawn dish soap and a couple capfulls of floor wax. Was slimey as snot, but you could almost throw the tire on the rim. As for split rims, if you don't have a cage, lay the rim on the ground with the ring facing down. That way if it does pop of when airing up it may lift the tire off the ground a few inches, but at least it doesn't send the ring flying up a take your head off. Not a bad idea to wrap a heavy log chain around it also. The way we did it was a 2 man operation. Need a tire Chuck that clamps on. One guy kinks the hose while the other guy seats the bead. When the bead seats, release the hose.
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Ever use Frey Lube? It's kind of like stiff grease and will seal tires to rusty wheels. The Goodyear store I worked at years ago had us use it on all aluminum wheels so they didn't corrode and cause a bead leak.
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It was my experience with my dad through fixing farm equipment like tractor that I got to learn to become handy with mechanics. To me I saw him as a McGyver of sorts when it comes to using power tools in ways not one would use conventionally. I'm teaching my kids what I learned from my dad because I don't want them to not learn anything physical and just be staring at their phones and computer. This is a good place to learn everything I can about our equipments. Thanks.
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My neighbor has one of these for his truck tires
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Originally posted by Eldon (WA) Eldon (WA) wrote:

Originally posted by MACK MACK wrote:

Getting the second bead off the rim was the worst part until I chained  the rim to bottom of forklift and tire to forks, raised lift it came right off.      MACK

I used to do mine that way but it was still a pain and hard on the tire. Now I lift the rim with the Skidloader and get the tire/wheel to almost stand vertical, then use the spoon to get the tire started then I take a long skinny one and slip it between the tire and bead, shove it in as far as I can, swing the handle so the other end grabs the rim lip and then pull the bar outward. You have great leverage this way and I just work my way around from the top down on both sides and the tire just falls off when you are about half way around. It is basically the opposite of putting the tire back on by sitting the rim on top of the tire.

I have stood them up against a steel post at the factory and broke the beads with the forks on the fork truck.  The 24" I have laid on the forks and used the 50 ton hydraulic press. Larger than 24" will not fit far enough back in the press.

Another way!

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That little screw tool is the cats meow.  Hadda set of 14.9 X 26's on a JD 430 industrial, that my tire guy gave up on, I bought that tool, when Gemplers had it fer about $150.  One of the best things I ever bought.Thumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote truckerfarmer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by Lonn Lonn wrote:

My neighbor has one of these for his truck tires
[TUBE]BVhO2ML1k48[/TUBE]



You said something about tires? I didn't notice, was there a tire in that video?
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