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Originally posted by Cernunnos Cernunnos wrote:

Sorry to ask the novice question, but what does "corn on corn" mean?

It means keep planting corn on the same field so you can flood the market and corn prices will go down !!!!! It's worked real well so far for everyone !!!!!!
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Originally posted by ILGLEANER ILGLEANER wrote:

Originally posted by Cernunnos Cernunnos wrote:

Sorry to ask the novice question, but what does "corn on corn" mean?

It means keep planting corn on the same field so you can flood the market and corn prices will go down !!!!! It's worked real well so far for everyone !!!!!!

John, they will wise up, or fold up. One or the other.
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Originally posted by Tracy Martin TN Tracy Martin TN wrote:


John, they will wise up, or fold up. One or the other.


Tracy for every one that folds there's another to fill his shoes.They ain't smart enough to look down the road and/or see the big picture.
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I really like LG Seeds 2549. Been planting it for a few years now, beat the carp out of the dekalb I used to plant. Haven't done corn on corn though. Also I plant conventional corn because chemicals and seed are cheaper
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Where I work we sell LG seeds, I've planted LG beans and had good luck but never tried the corn. I've been able to get pioneer for around $100 less per bag than LG. Last year a local BTO planted all LG corn and it wouldn't dry down and had really low test weight,51 to 54 lbs. Says he lost over $40K on that. That made my mind up to stay away from it. We also deal in Mycogen and thats what he went to this year with much better results. Mycogen was still around $10 more per bag then pioneer.
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I heard 2620 doesn't dry well. Planted Pioneer beans one year and they did decent.
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I don't know what number he planted but we do sell alot of 2549. I just refuse to pay $350-$365 for LG when I can get Pioneer for $270. Me and another guy from work go together with his brother on seed orders so there's a pretty good discount on the price. Still like to find something cheaper. I'm definitely going to look into Becks and see what they have to offer.
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My seed guy told me this will be the last year for 2549. I'm paying $192 a bag now before early pay. I shelled some Becks corn for my neighbor this fall and it did 165 BPA this year
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Wow that's a big price difference from what our seed rep sells them for. Is there really that much price difference from location to location?
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From getting out n selln this fall it seems like this year is the biggest year for big deals. If it was me I'd try n make sure i had ever piece of technology in the bag I could get. Not saying that you guys have a root worm problem or corn Boer problem but if you do by the time you realize it it's to late. I'd want the piece of mind knowing I'm all ready covered. I realize it's hard to spend that kind of money per bag when the price is so low.
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Not sure about the difference. When I started, none of the big companies wanted to sell the few bags I needed, so I went with LG. 180 acres later...
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Originally posted by Mike Plotner Mike Plotner wrote:

I really like LG Seeds 2549. Been planting it for a few years now, beat the carp out of the dekalb I used to plant. Haven't done corn on corn though. Also I plant conventional corn because chemicals and seed are cheaper


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have you checked into the "open pollinated" seed corn? it's really advancing in popularity, and is a WHOLE LOT CHEAPER! and they say you can plant the corn you raise back the next year saving thousands of dollars in seed costs! used to be it didn't raise as many bushels, but that is long passed, I've talked to a few that plant it and they say it's yielding as good as a lot of hybred seed. wether that's true? dunno...but it's worth looking into I think! and even if it doesn't yield as high, there is a lot less invested in it, so it may work out the same or better on profit margin! oh...and you're not supporting Monsanto with it!
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last year grand total for herbicide (Capreno and Atrazine) per acre was $17.91 per acre, including application.

only got a little bit of dry fertilizer on this year at planting though sadley
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by Mike Plotner Mike Plotner wrote:

I really like LG Seeds 2549. Been planting it for a few years now, beat the carp out of the dekalb I used to plant. Haven't done corn on corn though. Also I plant conventional corn because chemicals and seed are cheaper


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Originally posted by SHAMELESS SHAMELESS wrote:

have you checked into the "open pollinated" seed corn? it's really advancing in popularity, and is a WHOLE LOT CHEAPER! and they say you can plant the corn you raise back the next year saving thousands of dollars in seed costs! used to be it didn't raise as many bushels, but that is long passed, I've talked to a few that plant it and they say it's yielding as good as a lot of hybred seed. wether that's true? dunno...but it's worth looking into I think! and even if it doesn't yield as high, there is a lot less invested in it, so it may work out the same or better on profit margin! oh...and you're not supporting Monsanto with it!


You can grow normal hybrid corn and not support Monsanto.   Besides what would be so bad about supporting Monsanto if a big M hybrid gives you the best ROI? Couple guys here tried open pollinated and it fell flat on its face.
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almost considered growing some open pollinated just for fun. actually, we still have all the seed cleaners and graders from when my great grandpa and his brother sold hybrid corn, soybeans, wheat, oats and barley. first ones in the state I belive
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It would be neat if some one were to grow a test plot with no GMO corn. A couple of the non GMO hybrids next to say, Green Field 114 and Wapsie Valley. Treat the corn to the same fertilizer and ck the yields and compare prices and how much they would make per acre!
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Make sure there is no deer or racoons around though. I grew some Wapsie Valley and hand picked it and put it in my shed in an open wagon. I had about 25 bu in the wagon. The racoons shelled and ate every ear!
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they'll do that anyways (the coons) they even eat the coated seed after they tear open the bag!
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Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by Mike Plotner Mike Plotner wrote:

I really like LG Seeds 2549. Been planting it for a few years now, beat the carp out of the dekalb I used to plant. Haven't done corn on corn though. Also I plant conventional corn because chemicals and seed are cheaper


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I'd be happy to! I want 4 bags of something. Somewhere between 85 and 90 days grain corn. JD Plate screened with recommendation.

BUT, I highlighted chemical in red. How is conventional corn cheaper in chemicals?
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I don't farm for a living but I plant a bit of corn. My old 919 Jd planter still has seed from 3 years ago when we cleaned the neighbors planter out to go to beans.  Cost is very reasonable at $0.00  Big smile  The corn I planted last year in virgin pasture ground did very well and stood all summer this year. The same corn this year had smaller ears and didn't stand till Thanksgiving. Planted right across the lane from last years corn in virgin ground.
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we grow hubner its a regional monsanto brand like becks.  our favorite corn is 5151 its a 95 day tripple stack ends up about $250 a bag.  our favorite beans are 32-13 we had far better beans than anyone else in the area this year.  
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