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7060
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 1146 |
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Looks like I can buy a new one for $370. That sounds like a lot simpler route too
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dbounds
Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Albany, Mo. Points: 232 |
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I pull that class with the Missouri Mule D21 and you will need some wheaties (700-800 hp) to compete. head work will be a must and 466 cubes would be best. I am not there yet. an 11mm pump minimum, 12 better. need to run 22-25 mph to be competitive. I am running around 22-23 mph and placing 5-7 th place usually. Doyle
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O.P.S. Heads
Orange Level Access Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 574 |
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So the 10mm plunger rule isn't enforced? Shocker.
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AC 7060
Bronze Level Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Points: 144 |
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Better get rid of the power director to it won't like 800 HP. My power director in a 7060 won't hold any more than 4th high at 10,000 pounds. I successfully ran 5th once on a slick track after a rain. I tried 5th a couple times after that and warped the clutch disks.
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7060
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 1146 |
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I'm going to run legal regardless. I'm going to try 426 cubes with the stock cooler on ice. Eventually I might stroke one of my other engines to put in it. The way I figure it the 7030 running 5th gear at 3000rpm it should be 22mph without wheel slip. Am I wasting my time with the 30 rear end or should I just try and find some power shift range gears for it? This may be a question for the doctor, but will power shift gears go into the 7030 rear? I remember something being different in the 7030 and 7050s. Also if the power director won't hold, will cutting the center spines out and welding the low side gear to the high side gear and modifying the clutch hub and piston to run the low side discs too work?
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O.P.S. Heads
Orange Level Access Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 574 |
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I doubt you will get anywhere close to 22MPH or 700 HP with a 10mm pump. Just not enough fuel to make enough power to do that. If they limited the turbo inlet to something a lot smaller than 2.8 or a GT42 there would be less need for oversized A pumps.
I read the rules for the 9500 pro field last night. They are identical to the 9000 hot farm other than you can use a P series pump and you can use 20.8 X 38 or 24.5 tires in the pro field class. Not much more money for a P pump than a good A pump. If the plunger size rule isn't enforced you will see that kind of competition in the hot farm class anyway. The clutch will be an issue unless your play by the 10mm rules. If you stay legal, you should be fine if you use a 7580 clutch. If you go faster I would guess you will need to figure out how to manufacture a hub and engage both sides of the clutch at once. |
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dbounds
Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Albany, Mo. Points: 232 |
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Just got home, I answered quick yesterday while traveling. I run with the Northwest Missouri pullers assoc. with very similar rules but our A pump size is open. Most of our tractors are running 11 or 12 mm pumps. IAMO tractors do come pull with us some and pull together at State fair ect. Their has been some movement of A pump tractors to the P pump class but that will involve several more $$$ to compete there. Most are in the 1000 hp range. All are running 2-3 disc clutch setups, singles would prove a disappointment. Our A pump rules can be found at NWMTPA.com. Might check out our A pump 12 mph class, we are very competitive in this class 1st-3rd placings usually and don't take near as much $$$ to be competitve and a 10mm pump will work there. Would be glad to talk about it if interested. Doyle
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7060
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 1146 |
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I know a guy who runs limited pro with nwmtpa, but I would like to run with iamo since they are more in my area. The Shelby, Mo pull is only a few miles from me. There are a couple hot farm tractors running in the pro field P pump class too I have seen. Wish iamo had a 12mph class for me to start out in.
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8105 |
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Any pullls this year yet ?
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O.P.S. Heads
Orange Level Access Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 574 |
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Wonder what this dude is using for a clutch? No shift on the go.
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7060
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 1146 |
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Is a shift on the go a benefit? I watch a 2255 Oliver that pulls hot farm and it looks like that shift breaks traction and after that it's over. I think I came up with an idea on locking the whole power director into high. If I weld the low side to the high side and mill the splines out so it can turn on the transmission shaft, and remove the center seal ring on the power director clutch hub where it goes through the front housing so when I let out on the clutch pedal it engages both pistons. Any opinions on this? Also is there anything wrong with running the intake straight off the turbo and turning it up and out the top of the hood behind the radiator though? I seen in the video he has his in the grill, but he must be dry blocking it with no radiator?
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O.P.S. Heads
Orange Level Access Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 574 |
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The upshift on the go shift is beneficial on pace tractor classes. The downshift usually equals the end of the run or close to it. When the HP gets high enough an on the go shift is no longer possible. Even the high output IH T/A will only handle so much. After that its pick a gear and run it.
I would assume he is using a shorter radiator and running the air intake pipe over the top. I think a straight shot into the inlet of the turbo is a good thing. Huge HP gain - no, but you will gain some. Edited by O.P.S. Heads - 20 Sep 2014 at 9:47pm |
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AC 7060
Bronze Level Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Points: 144 |
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I run a 190 radiator in place my 7060 radiator and run the intake over the top of it.
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O.P.S. Heads
Orange Level Access Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 574 |
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Notice the exhaust manifold.
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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I'd like to see a picture of the DT manifold on the 426. See how it fits.
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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7060
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 1146 |
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Looks like a steel manifold similar to what I was talking about building? Looks like it's glowing hot.
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O.P.S. Heads
Orange Level Access Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 574 |
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I agree. The glow would indicate it is a steel manifold. The shape / direction of the runners would too.
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7060
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 1146 |
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I see a lot of pulling tractors with 8 lug aluminum wheels on the front. What are they using for hubs/spindles? Ide like to use 8 lug on 6.5" aluminum wheels such as on a chevy/old ford/old dodge pickup. I never have paid attention to them on tractors ive seen.
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O.P.S. Heads
Orange Level Access Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 574 |
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If you build a light weight front axle (which I would recommend)you can use any spindle and hub you choose which increases the amount of wheels to choose from. If you use your existing spindles and hubs, I would assume you can machine the hubs to fit an 8 bolt truck wheel. You will have to do some measuring.
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