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6080 power beyond for a loader
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    Posted: 22 May 2023 at 11:02am
i have a 6080 allis chalmers with a loader the loader has two spools. how do i plumb the loader value spool in the tractor without using the rear remotes on tractor? i have a service manual it says that there is a power beyond hose but im not sure if that is where i tap into to get a hose up to loader value body 
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I think the 6080 has a power beyond port on the pump end cap. I'm not sure what the  connections would be. The flow from the end cap is usually for steering etc. an is usually low.
Another method is to:
Disconnect the line between the pump and the lift valve.
Run a line between pump outlet line and the loader valve inlet.
Run a line from the loader valve power beyond and the line going to the lift valve line.
Run a line from the loader valve return and tee into the return line to the filter.
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Well considering all the stuff I need to take off just to get to the hoses I think I'm just going leave it alone thank you for your input
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I added a joystick with grapple control on my 190xt so that I could run a hay grapple. It was worth all the trouble. I recommend you rethink the effort and do it.
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The line coming out of remote valves goes to 3point which is power beyond. Unhook it and go to loader valve inlet, out of loader valve into 3point valve.               MACK
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oh ok so all i have to do is take that hose off run a hose up loader value than back down to the hose i took off that sounds a whole lot easier than what i thouht i guess now all i have to do is start taking everything off the tractor to get to it thank you all for the help
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here is an sfter thought could i put pioneer coupler male female on like put a female coupler on the power beyond hose that i take off than make a hose that goes to tractor value put a male coupler on that end that way both are out from under tractor so you could un hook loader from tractor than rehook back to factory without braeking lines and getting oil all over i hope i said that right so you guys can follow me on this
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Should work, use new couplers.                    MACK
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Yep I got some stuff today for it just waiting for some free time to jump into
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Ok I plumbed in the loader to the power beyond and noticed that the three point goes down slowly but when I work the loader controls the three point goes down at normal speed is there something I might have done wrong?
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Did 3pt have a load or just empty arms?    can not think of a reason.              MACK
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No load just the arms
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That could be normal.                    MACK
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Originally posted by farmerjohn827 farmerjohn827 wrote:

Ok I plumbed in the loader to the power beyond and noticed that the three point goes down slowly but when I work the loader controls the three point goes down at normal speed is there something I might have done wrong?

Possibly the pressure in the system is slightly slowing the return of the fluid from the three point valve?
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