Operator ignorance & how do you fix the damage

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   Thanks steve(ill). I was mowing as tight as possible around cedar clumps that tend to take over at the rock outcrops in the field. I have no idea of the degrees created by my turns, but the turns were too tight for the mower drive line. 
Jim

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brkfldj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 13 May 2010 Location: Sharpsburg, MD Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote brkfldj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 9:23pm
	Thanks steve(ill). I was mowing as tight as possible around cedar clumps that tend to take over at the rock outcrops in the field. I have no idea of the degrees created by my turns, but the turns were too tight for the mower drive line. Jim
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SteveM C/IL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8509	Post Options Post Reply Quote SteveM C/IL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 9:28pm
	I'd have to go measure it but I'm sure my Woods has more shaft exposed than that one. Pull shaft apart and see how much is sticking in slip. If its only just fully engaged in slip while straight you're screwed. If plenty cut slip at weld and shorten front piece a couple inches and reweld. KEEP IT IN TIME!!! Then you can turn so short your tire catches shield and buckles it up but you won't jam the shaft into the tractor.

jaybmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24399	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaybmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2022 at 6:43am
	Maybe Santa will bring you a BIG pile of wood chips/mulch, so you can landscape those 'tight corner' areas into more gentle swoops ? Neighbour had a similar 'grass cutting' problem. I suggested making a flower garden out of the trouble area, naturally I got the 'grr another &^^ garden to deal with ??!!' but he did make it. Turned into a real nice display and a simple, single,fast troublefree pass with the mower. Options, always try to find the ones that make YOUR life easier !
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Tbone95 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11997	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tbone95 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2022 at 11:08am
	Can't say for sure without hopping on his tractor and mowing on his job, but 45 degrees sure sounds very unrealistic for a sharp turn limit. Unhook your PTO, drive the tractor and turn very sharp, like your rear tire about to interfere, and stop and take the measurements on your PTO to see if you can shorten it up that much, and still be engaged properly when straight.

steve(ill) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85906	Post Options Post Reply Quote steve(ill) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2022 at 1:35pm
	as the pto outer tube is 38 inches long, i would guess the SQUARE shaft is 24 - 30 inches... Thats why i said last week that it would be "NICE" if there was 12 inches of shaft showing... Outer tube would be better at 32 inches instead of 38....... Could be " cut and weld", but thats some work and depends on your welding ability ... and yes, the square end has to be ALIGNED with the yoke end if it is cut.... 45 degree angle is not much of a turn, but could be done... apparently you have been doing that prior to the OOOPS..
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garden_guy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1146	Post Options Post Reply Quote garden_guy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 3:01pm
	Very interesting math on the movement for turns... I really should make a note of how tight I can turn my WD with the 6' AC 172 mower behind it... There's some "play" in the side to side of the shaft so I think it lets me get away with more than it should.

brkfldj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 13 May 2010 Location: Sharpsburg, MD Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote brkfldj Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Mar 2023 at 6:35pm
	UPDATE: removal of the Woods Mower driven shaft was straight forward because of the council of you forum members. I used my Dremel with a cylindrical, chainsaw sharpening, grind stone. The burrs on the end of the PTO shaft were the source of my inability to remove the Wood’s driven shaft. A few minutes with the Dremel and the shaft was removed. There was no problem with the release button. Thanks to all. Jim [IMG]
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rw Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 28 Oct 2009 Location: United States Points: 384	Post Options Post Reply Quote rw Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Mar 2023 at 7:14pm
	The long shaft that telescopes has to be really slick to slide with torque like mowing around a corner. Another experience i had with a sliding shaft was wear on the corners of the square shaft at the standard operating length. If the corners are rounded over and they have torque applied they bind as they try to slip into the squarer part of the tube. Creates a wedge. This happened to our 5 foot three point cutter. We mowed a gazillion acres of pasture and the shaft was really worn bad. Replaced inner and outer shaft problem solved.

Nathan (SD) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Day County SD Points: 1275	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nathan (SD) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 2023 at 8:44am
	Get your drawbar hole to 16 inches from the end of the PTO shaft. Technically not spec but it will solve your problem. Gives you more clearance back by the gearbox and moves the pivot point closer to the u-joint in front.