Norm [IND] your a real class act!

 

Edited by Rfdeere - 28 Oct 2017 at 2:54am

   I have to agree with todd on this one ,

Todd,

I think you might be taking this a little too personal. I have had dealings with Norm over the years and he is not the person you make him out to be.

I read the posts the other day, and did not come off with the same impression you did.

Edited by GlenninPA - 20 Feb 2010 at 6:52am

I think some responsiblility lies with both Norm and the sellar.First if I was Norm I would have said "If Todd in NY doesnt want it I am interested." And the sellar should have told Norm " Todd is first in line so if he doesnt want it you can buy it."

I have to agree with Todd. He started the post looking for a g and was waiting for info  Norm hijacked it  no question  my 2 cents  Steve

Todd, after looking a your post "Looking for a G" and the follow ups, I don't see your point in slinging mud on Norm. He did not send a private message trying to "back door" you as you say. He publicly posted his contact number asking for info just like you did. If you and the seller had some private arrangement outside your public post that he didn't honor, then your beef is with him. I think that ...#1 you are very disapointed, and #2 you are entirely out of line, and absolutley wrong in your attack on Norm! I do hope that you find a suitable G in your price range for this project. Kip

 I Sure hope the farm machinery section doesnt get as rough for some as the political section

Norm and Todd..  i do not know either one of you but let me say this i have no dog in this hunt .. but i can say from a lot of experience .treat people the way ..you want to be treated .. if a mistake was made .. try to get over it .. life is to darn short  not to .

I once applied for a job and was real excited about it.. thought i had it for sure .. went home  and that night  told a couple of (friends ) about it . The next week one of the guys told me    that he was hired ...for that job .. p##### me off .. He is still at that job .. and we are still friends .. go figure ?

just my opinion

I'm going to try and stay neutral on this one.  Sometimes people will honor things as to who is first in line.  Sometimes they don't.  I know you might be upset with Norm, but do you know for sure that Norm was the one who got the G?  Someone else may have saw the thread and called and got it and you don't even know.  For all I know, someone could be mad at me about the D17 I just bought.  It was on craigslist and I called a couple days after it was posted at the price was right.  I was third in line, and the seller said to be fair, that he would let people look at it in order to be fair.  The first guy didn't want it after talking about it on the phone.  The second guy got busy and had to cancel his appointment to look at it.  I was third, went to look at it, committed to buy it and gave the seller some money down until I picked it up two weeks later.  Now the second guy might be miffed at me as I jumped him in line, but I look at it as the seller contacted me to come look at it and also I'm a firm believer that if it was meant to be, I would get it and I did.  I can understand your anger, but I don't know if taking things out in the open on a public forum is the right way to go about it. 

Whoa! Hold on a second! You mean to say if something is being sold by a seller, whether at auction or whatever, if a "friend" is also bidding or interested, you back away and let the the "friend" get it for his price??? How about the seller?? Aren't you screwing him with your non-compete monopolistic attitude??? And who are your friends, those who you are afraid of and don't want to cross, or just people you think you know versus those you don't think you know or maybe want to get even with??? Your ideas do not speak to the free market system we so cherish in this US. Also from the sounds of your post, Todd, you and Norm (Ind) are NOT "friends", so what is your gripe? Is all this over a G or did you just want to spew some venom, and Norm happened to be a convienent target? If I were to sell something, I would sell to the highest honest bidder, unless I had made an agreement to sell for a lower price to the first buyer, then I would hold my agreement to that first buyer, based on all agreed terms and conditions. That is a matter of principle, not competition. Todd, just make sure this is really worth your ire and reputation.

Money talks. The seller sold it to someone else before you had your chance. End of story. You win some and you lose some. Lots of G's left. Move on to the next one.

I have learned their are no friends at an auction, I bought a WD at a local farm sale and a guy told me he was going to bid on it until he saw me bidding, and then a week later I was at another sale and was looking at a case 830 diesel that ran good with good tires and he said he was going to buy it so when it sold for $800 I poor word choiceumed he bought it and went to congradulate him and he said he didn't even bid. From that point on if I want some thing I bid, it makes no difference if your bidding against a friend, if you both want it the one that is willing to pay the most will get it anyway.

Edited by Denis in MI - 20 Feb 2010 at 2:23pm

I think this should have been handeld differently on BOTH the buyer AND the seller. Buyer should have said "If Todd doesn't buy it, I am interested" and the seller should have said "Todd asked first, so he has first right of refusal". I think it's extremely low though that a buyer would come in and hi-jack someone else's wanted add.  This goes for any buy/sell situation. I have some more opinions on the matter but for the sake of feelings and business I'll keep them to my self. For now.

I can see at least 3 sides to this....none are squeaky clean or right from where i sit.

It seems like I'm always a day late and a dollar short, just missed a real good deal or something like that. But I would not try to take something out from under someone else, knowing the deal is being worked out. But let's not get all the dirty laundry out. The point had been made and if Norm or the seller wants to respond they can. I do have a mental list of members that have had problems and I just steer away from them. It's not hard to tell the difference between the guys who do this for fun and a hobby and the guys that are trying to make a buck.