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Tom59
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Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 6:19am |
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Have a neighbor in the late seventies and early eighties that raise a lot of ear corn had both an Allis Chalmers WD45 gasoline tractor with a New Idea 2 row mounted picker and also an New Idea one row 309 picker. I think his father-in-law ran the ran the WD45 with the mounted picker.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3461 |
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A buddy of mine's Dad ordered a 1066 with NFE and mounted a 234 on it with sheller. Now that would be a corn-picker! He still has the 10, picker replaced with combine long ago.
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plummerscarin
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Thanks. May explain the metal bowl on my Super M.
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1963D17
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They could crack with the added heat. If you go to a threshing be and see a tractor with a metal bowl, it was a corn picker tractor. I did have a customer who's 706 burned under a picker from stupidity. The 706 Farmalls used a short battery under the fuel tank. The taller 806 battery was cheaper but the terminals would hit the tank. He bought a taller battery and wedged a piece of lumber between the battery and the tank. The board fell out at one point and the battery welded itself to the tank. It turned out to be an expensive battery.
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TramwayGuy
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“ Why were the glass bowls a liability on mounted pickers?”
If they cracked and caught fire, you would have a true inferno before long. |
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dr p
Orange Level Joined: 24 Feb 2019 Location: new york Points: 1014 |
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I still pick about 15 acres of corn each year. Got a 33 mounted on wd45. Not a bad picker but it is hard to get the tractor to go slow enough in heavy corn. Grew up with a 234 ih on a 450. That rig was something else. I think that picker may have been the most reliable implement international ever made. I milk guernseys so I think the cob helps with rumen health and improved butterfat
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plummerscarin
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Why were the glass bowls a liability on mounted pickers?
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |
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Well, not a picker, but here’s my E. My tenant had been making noises about retiring and I saw it advertised in the OAN. I went back and forth on it and bright and early on a Saturday morning drove from the east side of Des Moines to Gilman IL. One of those “easier to ask for forgiveness than permission” things
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1963D17
Bronze Level Joined: 05 Jun 2021 Location: Alvord, Iowa Points: 81 |
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What also made IH pickers popular was they used stripper plates rather than snapping rolls. Less shelling. Around here most of the mounted pickers were IH and the pull type New Ideas due to their clean picking. Later on quite few John Deere 300's showed up in the area.
One of the things that led to a few picker fires beside trash on the manifold was the sediment bowl. When installing the picker you were also supposed to replace the glass bowl with a metal one. Even in the 1990's I was selling a few metal bowls yet. I bought a very nice Allis 35 pull type last year and hope this fall to try it out. All the husking pins are gone so it will be a dirty pick but still fun.
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Tom59
Bronze Level Joined: 27 Feb 2021 Location: Lebanon Tenness Points: 149 |
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Found this post yesterday and finish reading all of it this morning, really enjoy the stories. I started raising some corn in 1999 and put out about 6 acres that year. Planted it with a borrowed AC 4 row planter in April that spring,. I started a crop with no equipment to harvest it with, so on Memorial Day weekend I went to an estate auction and brought a Little Giant elevator for $600. I was about thirty miles from home and I haul it home on my 20 foot flatbed trailer. I had neighbor that had an New Idea 309 one row snapper picker sitting in a shed he wanted to get rid of. I brought it for $1100 and traded out the payment for the picker round baling hay for him that summer. Found a old gravity box that I put on a JD 953 running gear I had and borrow another wagon when I started picking that fall. I pull the New Idea picker and wagon with a MF 275 tractor. I put all that ear corn crop in a old corn crib on the farm and grind it that winter to feed to weaned calves off my own cows. Used a New Holland 355 grinder mixer for grinding the ear corn. I raise corn and fed to calves for about fifteen years till I sold my cows in summer of 2015 when took a full time job and quit farming full time. Still got all my equipment and still couple loads of ear corn for one of my neighbor for wildlife feed.
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JC-WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 33655 |
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Was watching different vids and ran across Wingnut's video...
and seen towards the end a corn crib that is something like what I dreamed about building back when we were picking corn. This crib really is neat. Combining season around the corner... and be here before we know it. |
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Sugarmaker
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Dad did custom work when ever he could. Don't know how he had the time with a dairy and crops. One fall we had a piece of corn to pick for a neighbor. Used the WD45 pulling the new idea single row pull behind with a gravity box hooked to it. Our ground in the township is very wet. He would get half a row picked and would be stuck. I was maybe 12? He hooked the other WD45 to the front with a chain, put me on it and said don't stop till we get to solid ground. We spun our way through that field of corn and mud row after row. Dad thought it was work. I loved it! We did a fair job of getting most of it picked and not wallowed down. Year was 1964 ish. Just the memories are left.
Regards, Chris
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Don(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 3796 |
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Is there any good market for Ear corn anymore? Or just for grinding and feed? I love love to grow it to pick, but just don't have a use for it myself.
Anyone else have pickin stories??? Please share! My grandfather still has his 2 row new idea, didn't use it the past few seasons though. I think he has told me stories about picking in December when the snow was on. And probably has stories of the 35 pull type picker they had. Had to be a big improvement over picking by hand!! |
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Galatians 5:22-24
"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
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D17Milo
Bronze Level Joined: 11 Dec 2017 Location: Milo,Iowa Points: 65 |
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Our local FFA would put a tractor and mounted picker in the town square. It would have a dummy entangled in the picker and a sign reminding farmer to be careful and to take breaks.
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JC-WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 33655 |
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Don, I spent many hours on that old tractor picking corn... but also for raking hay, baling hay, cultivating, plowing and disking... it was always unique to me to have it on Propane. Dad had it converted in 59-60 winter. The hoses are getting old and I need to get a new filler hose now if I start using it any amount. To take off the old 33 picker, Dad parked our picker behind the granary and had a special board nailed up on the wall there to rest the elevator on. He would have the snoots off the front and sides and then back up until the elevator would start raising and then stop. Placed cement blocks under rear corners front frames. set the picker down and wedge boards between the rear blocks and frame, Pull the pins and disconnect the lift and drive away from it. Then take off the front half of PTO and hang it in the shed. and whatever was on the tractor went in the shed too. Then bolted the bell assembly back up, turned the lift cylinder backwards and put lift arms and tail plate back on and the fenders too Slam the hitch on and go to work. If it was going to be used for cultivating, then the side brackets and shields came off too.
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FREEDGUY
Orange Level Access Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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There were at least 8 mounted pickers within a 25 mile radius of our farm back in the mid '70's. Mostly New Ideas but 2 Olivers. Never heard of fires with mounted pickers. Perhaps just lucky, hybrids ??
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Don(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 3796 |
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Thanks to all posting these memories!
JC, thanks again for taking us back in time to the way farms used to be. What good memories! I could only hope to experience some of what you have. Would love to plant 5 acres or so of corn just to take it off with my picker. Life is to short not to have fun! Some folks said I should sell the ol 33 picker and WD. I just can't come to selling it, especially after dad and I put blood sweat and tears, into fixing the tractor up and mounting the picker! |
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Galatians 5:22-24
"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
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Rick of HopeIN
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Hope, Indiana Points: 1296 |
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Fires were a concern. My family had a New idea picker and it caugh fire with two differnt WDs under it.
I still remember going up the road when my uncles did the annual task of mounting the picker. It used special pedal set, single front wheel, and a lot fo fenders and stuff had to be removed. My brother and I always played on it when it was sitting in the barnyard. It had the husking attachment behind the tractor so it was especially interesting, and we pretended it was a rocket ship.
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1951 B, 1937 WC, 1957 D14, -- Thanks and God Bless
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Lonn
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29773 |
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Man I just realized this is an old thread..... still fun to read a second time!
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GARY(OH/IN)
Orange Level Joined: 19 May 2010 Location: Findlay,Ohio Points: 917 |
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Great stories! Like some others we had 2 pull types at home, morning and afternoon pickers for wet and dry stalks. A Wood Brothers and an International, both 1 row but can't remember which was used when. In 1962, I believe, parents bought a 195 acre farm 20 miles from home for $180 an acre. We planted over 100 acres of corn there the first year and hired a neighbor with a Farmall M and mounted picker to take it off. Averaged 119 bushel per acre and with corn at around $2.00 grossed over what he paid for those acres. I was in FFA at the time and had taken soil samples and discovered previous tenant farmer had been been putting on way to much fertilizer. So we raised that 119 bu. with no fertilizer and using Ebberts seed corn I got thru FFA at $6 a bag. Ah for the good old days.
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JC-WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 33655 |
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I started reading the old thread and sadly I seen at least 3 forum members are now on the permanent missing list. Jim Lindemood, Mark- 427435, Dipstick in Indiana, and several that haven't posted for awhile. Don, here is a pic of the old WD from several years back, thought I had a better one. We have a vcr tape of it picking corn but need to someday figure out how to get it transferred to computer... I haven't had it out in several years now, but think I need to take it out and pull the picker off so I can use the old tractor when I want to. and put the picker on a different WD. Was the main tractor on the farm for several years back in the 50's and early 60's then in the 70's got the picker on for the last time and been on ever since. Yes Pat, that was me. Still remember that time, but now I think I wouldn't be able to do that again even if I had to. I would be frozen to death in that cold... You got a little heat off the engine when you were hiding behind the corn rows, but get on the side the wind was on... you wouldn't get any heat. And the fans really didn't blow any cold on you ... or at least I don't remember that. I remember them being noisy. Usually we shut them off when running down the road. Those were the good old days. Got other stories too, Like the first 2 row NI old pulltype picker we got, had more trouble with that than did with the 33... I thought we were really going to pick some corn, what a dissapointment when the 190XT in cab warmth comfort didn't pick anymore corn than the old 33 picker did. Later we got a 324 and yet we used the 33 picker quite a bit. Back in '98 we had 32 acres of corn 5 miles from home... and the weatherman was forecasting lots of snow heading our way. I wanted to pick 2 more loads of corn from up there and I hustled through evening chores early and got up there about dark with the picker tractor and wagons... I picked the first load and started picking the second load and broke a gathering chain, I crawled under and clamped the tightener back and fixed the chain and layed down on the husks under the picker. was warm under there with the heat of the engine blowin down in there... took a little nap and I woke up and crawled out and it was starting to snow... I finished the load and hooked up the second wagon and pulled out of the field and got on the road Got a mile down the road and the tractor started heating up and had to get off and wipe the radiator off of the snow buildup, another mile, had to wipe the snow off, I was headed straight into the snow storm... next mile I wiped it off... and had 2 miles to go and here came my father to see where I was... He wasn't suppose to be out in weather like this with his poor health... snow was already about 6" on the ground and told him I would wait for him to get turned around and he said he would follow. Got a half mile from the farm and I turned into my field and unhooked the back wagon because I figured I wouldn't make the hill with both wagons and was glad I did, had to spin my way up the hill. Think it was around midnight when I got home, unhooked the wagon by the edge of the driveway and parked the tractor in the shed. Glad the night was over with. Couple weeks later I took the XT and 324 picker up there to finish the rest of the field... and hit a rock under the snow and tore the center snoot off... arrgh! Glad it wasn't the old 33 picker... See how wore it is in the pic from the mud on the front tires rubbing on it... Those kind of days are over with for the old man and the young ones will never experiance that in their lives either, but then again it will be with the more modern machines in cab comfort they will have their 'unique times to remember. Dad had talked about picking corn by hand in the moonlight to get their fields picked back in his youth... and having a husking peg in their hand to assist in taking the husk off the cob as they picked it... if you were really fast, you could have one cob hitting the bang board and one cob in the air... and reaching for the next. LOL Don't know how long it took them to pick a load, nor how big a load they picked either, but he talked about a triple box wagon for picking into.
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Keith M
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I’ve still got the D-17 diesel I first ran with 2 row mounted p sicker. The guy who owned it before I bought at his auction would only use diesel tractors for mounted pickers and he ran 3 Orange, Red, and Green the tractors that is. They all had new idea pickers mounted. Two of us could mount all three before lunch no problem. But I was a lot younger and faster moving back then. Ran a 620 JD with JD picker but didn’t like that set up as well. Ran more wet bottom ground and burying the front end was more common than I wished. Old Leonard wouldn’t even think about going around a wet spot even if it had standing water. They did a good job but felt like a rich kid when I got moved up to running the K Gleaner.
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ac fleet
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Only mounted picker we had was a deere #226 on a 36 A tractor. Not bad cept no muddin with it, had 1" between tires and picker! Didnt shuck the best. Later Dad got into the Massey sp jobbers. At that point not 6 shucks per wagon. One of dads shelling customers had a 33 on a wd, brought in everything in the field, Stalks roots, and of course the rocks! ---I always hated shelling for him. work your butt off for 2 loads of shelled out of a crib that should have had 12 loads in it.
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FREEDGUY
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Like others have stated, the dirt/dust wasn't as bad as some would imply, I was dirtier/itchier stacking hay/straw behind the baler than I was in between the elevators on the mounted picker
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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I read JCs post when he first posted it . I had remembered the story but not who told it . I have since met JC in person at Hutch . Great story .
We had a pull behind Oliver 2 row that was a handful behind the D-17 in a muddy field with a full wagon . Got better when the D-19 showed up . |
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FREEDGUY
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We ran a N/I mounted picker on a D17 for 16 years that I can recall, put it on/off every fall as that was the "big" tractor on the farm; harvest/spring tillage. There was a post about wet ground/getting stuck with a mounted picker, more than once I got to drive the Gleaner A pulling a wagon and tractor/picker combo backwards and I was only 8
Thanks for the memories !! I diligently helped dad remove fenders, headlights(series 2), wide front end to narrow, and swapping rear wheels to get the elevator clearance. Really miss the "bonding" time with dad Edited by FREEDGUY - 26 Mar 2020 at 7:24pm |
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Don(MI)
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JC, just reread that post about picking corn at night. Boy that sure was fun to read again! Especially after a hard day at work!
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Galatians 5:22-24
"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
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427435
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In SW Minnesota, the mounted pickers came after the pull type pickers, but the corn heads on the combines did both of them in. There were also a few MH self-propelled pickers around in the 50's. Edited by 427435 - 29 Sep 2012 at 6:15pm |
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Mrgoodwrench
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we picked up a uni system last year. havn't got to use it much. it has a few problems mostly carb issues and exhaust. 4 row head will be way fasted than the pull behind ni one row.
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Dipstick In
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Jim that 19 is fer shure not a trailer queen! A tractor is made to operate and enjoy, not just to stare at in my book. I have my uncle's 49 WD that we got new when i was 8. I use it mostly for spraying now, but next weekend it will be hooked to a No. 2, 2-14 and go play in some alfalfa sod. I do take it to the fair and show it, in fact this year I even washed the bird-doo off before I went. I didn't touch all of the grease and oil leaks because I didn't want it to rust overnite.
It always amazes people when I get the "hand-commencer" off the fender, give it a half turn at full choke, and another at half choke and it's purring. They just have a hard time believing something that old a rusty can run that good!
Then I tell them my uncle and I overhauled it back in 65 when I got out of the Army, and that's why! To my recollection, that tractor has never had a clutch put in it, and it still has the factory handclutch.
Thanks for the picts, I enjoyed them.
Don I'm glad that pup keeps the battery charged, I was worried!! LOL
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