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Topic: Mounted Corn Pickers
Posted By: houchens
Subject: Mounted Corn Pickers
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 10:31pm
Wondering if anyone's operating any mounted corn pickers? Picking with my NI pull-type and D-15 today got me thinking how much I'd like to have a mounted.
 
Anyone ever see any of em for sale anymore?


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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 10:38pm
Have never operated a mounted one but from what I can see it would be very dusty and dirty to be amongst the picking action.The only problems we had with our NI pull behind was pulling a fully loaded wagon behind the picker in a muddy field and manuvering in some small fields

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Posted By: houchens
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 11:47pm
Yes, the dust makes sense...
 
It'd be a lot easier to maneuver in the field though, and you'd never have to run over any rows to break a field up.
 
But, of course, you've got a tractor sitting inside that machine; you either let it sit in there all the time and not earn its keep, or you go through taking that think off.. I'm sure that's no easy task.


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Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 6:03am
Here's a view almost from the seat, to give you an idea of how it is to drive one.  I've put quite a few hours on this very machine.  I have to say it's not as dusty as some people worry that it is.  It's not clean, but not terrible.
It's not horribly hard to put it on and off.  It's a two man job, but my dad has done it by himself a lot of times.  Once the subframe is on the tractor, the rest is fast.
Sorry for the tractor brand here, but this all came to the farm in a package deal about 1979 or so.
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 7:22am
I just like the look of a mounted picker. There were 2 of them for sale this summer in MN for WC/WD's.

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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 7:25am
Great video!! the closest I come to a picker is I have a adjustment wrench for a WC era two row picker.


Posted By: Mnfarmboy
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 7:34am
We started with a mounted AC picker, went to a mounted New Idea picker, then a New Idea pull type, Dad  got tired of the dust and dirt with the mounted pickers.  The New Idea pickers gave a less trashy load of corn.  I think he really enjoyed the heater/AC in the 180.  We always had a neighbor come in with his combine to open the fields for us.  Installing the pickers on the 45 was always a chore, it also tied up a tractor for the season.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 7:47am
Dad only had a 1 row Wood Brothers pull type picker. He would NEVER think of driving down thru the field with it to "open Up" the field. We either walked it and picked it by hand or when the neighbor got a 2 row mounted, had him come open it up.

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Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 8:05am
Its a bear to put on! you need 2 people really.  
 
We did our WD 2 years ago, here are the pictures. Also, did a little engine work before putting picker on, so that took longer. Whatever AC advertised to put them on for time, was highly underestimated. enjoy.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Galatians 5:22-24

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Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 8:07am
 
 
 
 
 


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Galatians 5:22-24

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Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 10:22am

Looks good Don.  I'm always wondering why all the other brands of pickers had so much "high tin" and why they needed all that when I look at an AC picker which is "low profile".



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Posted By: dustinmo
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 8:29pm
here is mine the grille screen and the side panels are off of it in the pic but we still use it each year for about 10 acres for feed, its a 45 with a 33 picker


Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 8:49pm
Originally posted by WC7610 WC7610 wrote:

Looks good Don.  I'm always wondering why all the other brands of pickers had so much "high tin" and why they needed all that when I look at an AC picker which is "low profile".

 
   Actually, Allis Chalmers moved to that design also :
 
 
 


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Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 9:32pm
Randy we had fun today! Thanks for giving me a heads-up call yesterday. Kyle, Eric Clarks son, said he wished he had a chance to run a picker. Pop said , well there's next year! Eric was cussin' himself for not reading the newsletter, because he would have brought our buddy Darrell's pull type Oliver behind his D-17.   Oh well, there's next year! LOL

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Posted By: Dean/MN
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 9:47pm
We had a 2MH IH picker on a Farmall M for many years then, we got a 234 IH that was on a Case 830. We always left them on the tractor as we had plenty of extra ones to do the rest of the work. As was already mentioned the worst part was when you had a wet fall it was hard to get through the wet spots. There's a lot of weight on the tractor and can go down like a boat anchor if your not careful. 

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Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 9:55pm
Originally posted by WC7610 WC7610 wrote:

Looks good Don.  I'm always wondering why all the other brands of pickers had so much "high tin" and why they needed all that when I look at an AC picker which is "low profile".




As another poster noted, the New Idea pickers did a much better job of husking the corn due to longer or more husking rolls.  The AC mounted picker had a rather small husking area.  That "high" sheet metal hid a much bigger husking area on the other pickers.

My Dad had a 2M IH picker on an M in the early 50's and "opened" a lot of the neighbor's fields.  Later, a 2ME picker and finally a combine and corn head.  It was a good day's work for Dad and I to put that picker on and take it off, however.  Dad was share cropping with my Grandfather (1/3 and 2/3) and he would divide the fields into 10 row and 20 row sections and pick and crib them individually based on whose corn it was.


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Posted By: KenBWisc
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 9:36am
If you mount it every year for 20 years you get faster! 

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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 10:49pm
Wet fields... we could get thru the wet fields better with the mounted picker than we could with the pull type.. and when it was really muddy, we had a pusher tractor with about 16 feet a chain, that way you could push the picker till it got goin and then if the pusher was stuck, it would get pulled out by the chain.... but that was on those older flat rack wagons with sides and ends on them.


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 5:42am
Dad had both an F20 with IH picker and a WC/WD with a 33 picker. The F20 never had the picker removed but he says he got pretty good at taking the 33 off. He claims 15 or 20 minutes to take it off or put it on. The IH had better capacity and the F20 would drive slow enough while the WC was too fast and he called the AC a sunshine picker. He says if it was damp out you couldn't go but the 33 didn't shell while the F20 and IH picker left yellow streaks in the field. He also said if you had down corn the 33 would get under the stalks and get it picked better than the IH. At any rate he was tickled to get his E Gleaner back in the mid 70's after a shed fire burned his WC and picker. He bought a MM pull type to pick some for feed and a few years later bought an Oliver pull type that was in better shape. If anybody wants these for near scrape price they are still on the farm. The MM and Oliver that is.

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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 6:18am
We had a 2MH ,IH picker mounted on a 560 gas that we picked with until we found a good used M tractor and left the picker on year around. We finally bought a New Idea Mounted Superpicker with the 12 roll husking bed. That was a picker!We did not leave it on year around because it was easy to mount ,the hardest job was getting the tractor wheels slid on the axle. We should have had a Allis with roll shift wheels. The IH 2MH picker was a pain to mount,my Dad would get the tractor ready and then when I was home from school on Saturday we would mount the picker.We eventually bought a Uni Harvester with a 4 row head and husking unit and could not keep up unloading corn from that !


Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 6:41am
They turn the tractor into one mean looking machine -- like the way they look.
Would seem to be hard to put on and take off --- 20 years of practice would probably help, LOL..


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 7:33am
Here are 2 corn picking videos.
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Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 7:34am
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Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 7:37am
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 8:11am
That WD is sure moving along.

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Posted By: NEJim
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 8:53am
I've had both pickers, 33 and 190, I liked the 33 better because the 190 the operator sits right down in the dirt and it was so noisey with the chains running on both sides of you.  Also the 33 did a better job of husking.  The only drawback  was the 33 didn't have the capacity the 190 had but the 190 was alot warmer to run because you got the heat off the engine.  I kinda miss them days until I get in the cab of the combine and turn the heater on.  I guess it's "old age".


Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 9:14am

Dang, I would like to maybe pick a load with the 33 now! Will have to see, gramps has 30" rows. Not sure how the 33 would handle that, might have to lift the snouts all the way up so the stalk could bend?



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Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 9:18am
Jim, I bet the 190 was warmer!
I would think the 33 would be dirtier? Seems low, and the fans are blowin down right under your feet, might have a back draft up on the driver?
 
 
The 190 looks like its even tighter to get on!


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Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"


Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 7:58am
 
 
Check out that picker picture in the link below!! A pickin and a grinnin!!
 
For those interested, this link below is to a forum for old corn pickers. Good stuff!
 
http://cornpickers.activeboard.com/t49809433/walnut-corn-pickers-reunion-2012/" rel="nofollow - http://cornpickers.activeboard.com/t49809433/walnut-corn-pickers-reunion-2012/
 


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Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"


Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 8:54am
Seems like alot of people had an IH picker at one time. But I didn't notice anybody have one still running. Were they cheap and disposable?


Posted By: Dale H. ECIL
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 9:23am
I have a WD with a 33 mounted picker on it. My son feeds  25-30 head of steers out a year so he wanted ear corn for them, he has a mixer grinder. We have planted about 12 acres of corn in wide rows for several years on my farm for him. The WD has done a good job over the years but last year Matt bought a 2 row NI pull type picker for a back-up. Good thing he did, last Sat. we were picking his corn and the old WD decided to put a rod through the block!! This will be a winter job we were not planning for.

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Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 9:52am
Ouch! Dale, and that probably wont be fun taking the picker off of a non-running tractor. Good luck!
KGood, money was so tight back in the day that most guys had to run equipment until it was about totally worn out and fit only for the scrap yards. Often a similar machine was purchased and parts were robbed from the worn out pile.
DonMi, have you turned off the headlights on your dog yet? He might run his battery down!  LOL


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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 11:39am
" WC was too fast and he called the AC a sunshine picker. He says if it was damp out you couldn't go but the 33 didn't shell while the F20 and IH picker left yellow streaks in the field"
Even the WD was to fast with 13.6x28 tires on it. 12.4 tires were better.  The WD45 was slowed down enough to handle the capacity of the picker. 
  I always figured it was not a green stalk picker because of the wrapping but if the corn was dead ripe,  it would go even in the damp.
 Twentyfive or so + years back. Dad and I were trying to finish up picking corn and it was a damp day all day, dark and gray.
  Dad picked while I was doin morning chores and he filled the wagons. When I got done, I went and unloaded the wagons and about noon I crawled on the tractor and Dad unloaded wagons till chore time. Then we switched while I milked the cows and fed. After dark, must of been around 7:30 I got back to the field and back on the tractor. Nephews came and helped dad unload wagons for awhile.  No longer was it just damp, it was misting and longer into the night the more mist we we had ...and more mud on the tires.
  I remember picking the last two rows with the old LP gas WD  and 33 picker watching the stalks dissappear in the head lights while I was huddled over the steering wheel and shivering, wet prenuir clear thru and two miles from home.
 At around 2-2:30AM Dad had come back to see how I was doing. They had stopped unloading 4 wagons earlier...  cuzz what was left would fit on the last wagon...and it was full too. He asked if we should leave the outfit since we were two miles from home and I said no, and he handed me his warm jacket and I crawled on the picker and headed out while he crawled into the pickup where there was heat.   Pulled into the yard and unhooked the wagon and put the old picker tractor into the shed and shut it off, Gauge on the tank read 10%... any longer in the field, I wouldn't have made it home. Nice and quiet even with the heavier drizzle, which was almost a rain.  Went to the house and got the wet clothes off and into dry ones and stood in front of the heater for awhile and finally crawled into bed, it was 3 AM... Awoke at 6:30 and looked out... EGADS! There was 2 ft of snow on the ground ...WET snow..  and the snow stayed the rest of the winter.    We sure were glad that we got done picken, and beating the weather... And the picker didn't break down somewhere during the day making it possible.


Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 1:00pm
JC,
 
that has got to be the best corn pickin story I have ever read! Thanks!
 
And dipstick, the dog is always on full throttle, never runs his batteries down! LOL


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Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"


Posted By: Wingnut87
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 6:31pm
Here are a couple videos!
 
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Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by KGood KGood wrote:

Seems like alot of people had an IH picker at one time. But I didn't notice anybody have one still running. Were they cheap and disposable?
 
IH was number 1 in tractor sales so they were probably number one in picker sales too. I don't think any pickers were cheap and the concept of disposable equipment hadn't arrived yet. The self propelled combine and shelled corn drying killed pickers in general and pull type pickers were the nails in the mounted picker coffin.


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Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 7:15am
Great story, I always love reading the stories you guys post, and I always loved picking corn for about 2-3 years until we started feeding the milk cows shelled corn.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 8:02am
Always thought the cob gave a little extra roughage in the cows diet... and it would go back to the field as processed fertilizer. 
  Higher the protein and more pushing for production, the more the vet is out too. - Neighbor quit feeding for top production from his cows and went back to feeding more dry hay and grazing. The vet asked him one day in town if everything was alright since he hadn't been called in a long time.  Modern day ideas sometimes don't pay in the long run...LOL


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 8:40am
When I had calves, I ran ear corn through a burr mill. Last batch of Angus-Holsteins I had, the butcher said he had never seen a more perfectly marbled mess of meat before. And it tasted great tooTongue

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Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 3:22pm
I don't think we ever saw much improvment in milk production switching to shelled corn. We did however notice that it only took 1-2 days to fil the silo instead of 1-2 weeks. ;) I like the 2 weeks better. 2 row NI picker with a 12 roll husking bed pulled with the powershift JD 4020.


Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 6:17pm
Ear corn does have its advantages and disadvantages.  We still put up a couple cribs and feed it to the dairy steeres.  Seems to work really well and we have some nice looking animals off of it. 
 
My Grandfather started picking with flat top WC and mounted corn harvestor he was able to get during the war.  When the WC was traded in the picker was put on the new WD.  In the early 60s he got a late 33 that was painted persian #2 and had the roller chain gathering chains.  We still have this unit.  In the late 70s we bought a New Idea and put that on the D17.  What a picker that was!  We finally wore that out a few years ago about the same time we quit milking.  We have had our neighbor pick for us with his IH 234.  That unit does a good job as well.  We did use my 190 for a few years and the video posted earlier is my video of my Dad runing the 190.  You dont loose any shelled corn with this one but doesnt have near the capacity of the New Idea.  I have picked some with my pull type corn harvestor as well.  One thing I noticed with the older pickers is if you pick in a light mist they do husk better!
 
Notice the A-C flare boards on the wagon
 
 
 
 
 
Last year I bought a pull type New Idea.  Hoping to get some pictures soon.
Jim
 


Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 7:57pm
Great pictures as always jim. Thanks!

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Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 8:35pm
Jim that 19 is fer shure not a trailer queen! A tractor is made to operate and enjoy, not just to stare at in my book. I have my uncle's 49 WD that we got new when i was 8. I use it mostly for spraying now, but next weekend it will be hooked to a No. 2, 2-14 and go play in some alfalfa sod. I do take it to the fair and show it, in fact this year I even washed the bird-doo off before I went. I didn't touch all of the grease and oil leaks because I didn't want it to rust overnite.
It always amazes people when I get the "hand-commencer" off the fender, give it a half turn at full choke, and another at half choke and it's purring. They just have a hard time believing something that old a rusty can run that good!
Then I tell them my uncle and I overhauled it back in 65 when I got out of the Army, and that's why! To my recollection, that tractor has never had a clutch put in it, and it still has the factory handclutch.
Thanks for the picts, I enjoyed them.
 
Don I'm glad that pup keeps the battery charged, I was worried!! LOL  


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Posted By: Mrgoodwrench
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 8:50pm
we picked up a uni system last year. havn't got to use it much. it has a few problems mostly carb issues and exhaust. 4 row head will be way fasted than the pull behind ni one row.

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Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2012 at 6:14pm
Originally posted by Dave in il Dave in il wrote:

Originally posted by KGood KGood wrote:

Seems like alot of people had an IH picker at one time. But I didn't notice anybody have one still running. Were they cheap and disposable?
 
IH was number 1 in tractor sales so they were probably number one in picker sales too. I don't think any pickers were cheap and the concept of disposable equipment hadn't arrived yet. The self propelled combine and shelled corn drying killed pickers in general and pull type pickers were the nails in the mounted picker coffin.


In SW Minnesota, the mounted pickers came after the pull type pickers, but the corn heads on the combines did both of them in.   There were also a few MH self-propelled pickers around in the 50's.


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Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2020 at 6:14pm
JC, just reread that post about picking corn at night. Boy that sure was fun to read again! Especially after a hard day at work!

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Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2020 at 7:20pm
We ran a N/I mounted picker on a D17 for 16 years that I can recall, put it on/off every  fall as that was the "big" tractor on the farm; harvest/spring tillage. There was a post about wet ground/getting stuck with a mounted picker, more than once I got to drive the Gleaner A pulling a wagon and tractor/picker combo backwards Wink and I was only 8 Smile
Thanks for the memories !! I diligently helped dad remove fenders, headlights(series 2), wide front end to narrow, and swapping rear wheels to get the elevator clearance. Really miss the "bonding" time with dad Stern Smile


Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2020 at 7:50pm
I read JCs post when he first posted it . I had remembered the story but not who told it . I have since met JC in person at Hutch . Great story .
We had a pull behind Oliver 2 row that was a handful behind the D-17 in a muddy field with a full wagon . Got better when the D-19 showed up .

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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2020 at 7:57pm
Like others have stated, the dirt/dust wasn't as bad as some would imply, I was dirtier/itchier stacking hay/straw behind the baler than I was in between the elevators on the mounted picker Smile


Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2020 at 8:07pm
Only mounted picker we had was a deere #226 on a 36 A tractor. Not bad cept no muddin with it, had 1" between tires and picker!  Didnt shuck the best.
Later Dad got into the Massey sp jobbers. At that point not 6 shucks per wagon.
One of dads shelling customers had a 33 on a wd, brought in everything in the field, Stalks roots, and of course the rocks! ---I always hated shelling for him. work your butt off for 2 loads of shelled out of a crib that should have had 12 loads in it.


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Posted By: Keith M
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2020 at 8:24pm
I’ve still got the D-17 diesel I first ran with 2 row mounted p sicker. The guy who owned it before I bought at his auction would only use diesel tractors for mounted pickers and he ran 3 Orange, Red, and Green the tractors that is. They all had new idea pickers mounted. Two of us could mount all three before lunch no problem. But I was a lot younger and faster moving back then. Ran a 620 JD with JD picker but didn’t like that set up as well. Ran more wet bottom ground and burying the front end was more common than I wished. Old Leonard wouldn’t even think about going around a wet spot even if it had standing water. They did a good job but felt like a rich kid when I got moved up to running the K Gleaner.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2020 at 10:30pm
I started reading the old thread and sadly I seen at least 3 forum members are now on the permanent missing list. Jim Lindemood, Mark- 427435,  Dipstick in Indiana,
 and several that haven't posted for awhile.

Don, here is a pic of the old WD from several years back, thought I had a better one. We have a vcr tape of it picking corn but need to someday figure out how to get it transferred to computer...  I haven't had it out in several years now, but think I need to take it out and pull the picker off so I can use the old tractor when I want to. and put the picker on a different WD. Was the main tractor on the farm for several years back in the 50's and early 60's then in the 70's got the picker on for the last time and been on ever since.
https://allischalmers.com/forum/uploads/242/WD_LP_gas_picker.jpg

 Yes Pat, that was me. Still remember that time, but now I think I wouldn't be able to do that again even if I had to. I would be frozen to death in that cold... You got a little heat off the engine when you were hiding behind the corn rows, but get on the side the wind was on... you wouldn't get any heat.  And the fans really didn't blow any cold on you ... or at least I don't remember that. I remember them being noisy. Usually we shut them off when running down the road.
 Those were the good old days.
 Got other stories too, Like the first 2 row NI old pulltype picker we got, had more trouble with that than did with the 33...  I thought we were really going to pick some corn, what a dissapointment when the 190XT in cab warmth comfort didn't pick anymore corn than the old 33 picker did. Later we got a 324 and yet we used the 33 picker quite a bit.
Back in '98 we had 32 acres of corn 5 miles from home... and the weatherman was forecasting lots of snow heading our way. I wanted to pick 2 more loads of corn from up there and I hustled through evening chores early and got up there about dark with the picker tractor and wagons... I picked the first load and started picking the second load and broke a gathering chain, I crawled under and clamped the tightener back and fixed the chain and layed down on the husks under the picker. was warm under there with the heat of the engine blowin down in there... took a little nap and I woke up and crawled out and it was starting to snow... I finished the load and hooked up the second wagon and pulled out of the field and got on the road Got a mile down the road and the tractor started heating up and had to get off and wipe the radiator off of the snow buildup, another mile, had to wipe the snow off, I was headed straight into the snow storm... next mile I wiped it off... and had 2 miles to go and here came my father to see where I was... He wasn't suppose to be out in weather like this with his poor health... snow was already about 6" on the ground and told him I would wait for him to get turned around and he said he would follow. Got a half mile from the farm and I turned into my field and unhooked the back wagon because I figured I wouldn't make the hill with both wagons and was glad I did, had to spin my way up the hill.  Think it was around midnight when I got home,  unhooked the wagon by the edge of the driveway and parked the tractor in the shed. Glad the night was over with.
 Couple weeks later I took the XT and 324 picker up there to finish the rest of the field... and hit a rock under the snow and tore the center snoot off... arrgh! Glad it wasn't the old 33 picker... See how wore it is in the pic from the mud on the front tires rubbing on it...
  Those kind of days are over with for the old man and the young ones will never experiance that in their lives either, but then again it will be with the more modern machines in cab comfort they will have their 'unique times to remember.
Dad had talked about picking corn by hand in the moonlight to get their fields picked back in his youth... and having a husking peg in their hand to assist in taking the husk off the cob as they picked it... if you were really fast, you could have one cob hitting the bang board and one cob in the air... and reaching for the next. LOL  Don't know how long it took them to pick a load, nor how big a load they picked either, but he talked about a triple box wagon for picking into.


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Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 12:47am
Great stories! Like some others we had 2 pull types at home, morning  and afternoon pickers for wet and dry stalks. A Wood Brothers and an International, both 1 row but can't remember which was used when.
In 1962, I believe, parents bought a 195 acre farm 20 miles from home for $180 an acre.
We planted over 100 acres of corn there the first year and hired a neighbor with a Farmall M and mounted picker to take it off. Averaged 119 bushel per acre and with corn at around $2.00 grossed over what he paid for those acres. I was in FFA at the time and had taken soil samples and discovered previous tenant farmer had been been putting on way to much fertilizer. So we raised that 119 bu. with no fertilizer and using Ebberts seed corn I got thru FFA at $6 a bag. Ah for the good old days.


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 6:57am
Originally posted by Don(MI) Don(MI) wrote:

Its a bear to put on! you need 2 people really.  
 
We did our WD 2 years ago, here are the pictures. Also, did a little engine work before putting picker on, so that took longer. Whatever AC advertised to put them on for time, was highly underestimated. enjoy.
 
My Dad got pretty good at switching his 33 on and off his WC when it was the only tractor he had. Less than a half hour to install he claimed, once you knew how to set it on and off properly. He said it sure beat the F20 and IH picker he had ..... other than the IH picker had more capacity and you could pick on damp days but the IH left yellow streaks on the ground. I'll ask him again today to confirm.


Man I just realized this is an old thread..... still fun to read a second time!


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Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 8:18am
Fires were a concern.   My family had a New idea picker and it caugh fire with two differnt WDs under it.

I still remember going up the road when my uncles did the annual task of mounting the picker.  It used special pedal set, single front wheel, and a lot fo fenders and stuff had to be removed.

My brother and I always played on it when it was sitting in the barnyard.   It had the husking attachment behind the tractor so it was especially interesting, and we pretended it was a rocket ship. 


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Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 3:10pm
Thanks to all posting these memories!

JC, thanks again for taking us back in time to the way farms used to be. What good memories! I could only hope to experience some of what you have.

Would love to plant 5 acres or so of corn just to take it off with my picker. Life is to short not to have fun! Some folks said I should sell the ol 33 picker and WD. I just can't come to selling it, especially after dad and I put blood sweat and tears, into fixing the tractor up and mounting the picker!

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Galatians 5:22-24

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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 8:10pm
There were at least 8 mounted pickers within a 25 mile radius of our farm back in the mid '70's. Mostly New Ideas but 2 Olivers. Never heard of fires with mounted pickers. Perhaps just lucky, hybrids ??


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 10:34pm
Don, I spent many hours on that old tractor picking corn... but also for raking hay, baling hay, cultivating, plowing and disking... it was always unique to me to have it on Propane. Dad had it converted in 59-60 winter. The hoses are getting old and I need to get a new filler hose now if I start using it any amount.

To take off the old 33 picker, Dad parked our picker behind the granary and had a special board nailed up on the wall there to rest the elevator on. He would have the snoots off the front and sides and then back up until the elevator would start raising and then stop. Placed cement blocks under rear corners front frames. set the picker down and wedge boards between the rear blocks and frame, Pull the pins and disconnect the lift and drive away from it.  Then take off the front half of PTO and hang it in the shed.  and whatever was on the tractor went in the shed too. Then bolted the bell assembly back up, turned the lift cylinder backwards and put lift arms and tail plate back on and the fenders too Slam the hitch on and go to work. If it was going to be used for cultivating, then the side brackets and shields came off too.


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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."


Posted By: D17Milo
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 4:46am
Our local FFA would put a tractor and mounted picker in the town square. It would have a dummy entangled in the picker and a sign reminding farmer to be careful and to take breaks.


Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 8:56am
Is there any good market for Ear corn anymore? Or just for grinding and feed? I love love to grow it to pick, but just don't have a use for it myself.

Anyone else have pickin stories??? Please share!

My grandfather still has his 2 row new idea, didn't use it the past few seasons though. I think he has told me stories about picking in December when the snow was on. And probably has stories of the 35 pull type picker they had. Had to be a big improvement over picking by hand!!

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Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 7:04pm
Dad did custom work when ever he could. Don't know how he had the time with a dairy and crops. One fall we had a piece of corn to pick for a neighbor. Used the WD45 pulling the new idea single row pull behind with a gravity box hooked to it. Our ground in the township is very wet. He would get half a row picked and would be stuck. I was maybe 12? He hooked the other WD45 to the front with a chain, put me on it and said don't stop till we get to solid ground. We spun our way through that field of corn and mud row after row. Dad thought it was work. I loved it! We did a fair job of getting most of it picked and not wallowed down. Year was 1964 ish. Just the memories are left.
Regards,
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2021 at 11:34pm
Was watching different vids and ran across Wingnut's video...
and seen towards the end a corn crib that is something like what I dreamed about building back when we were picking corn.  This crib really is neat.
http://youtu.be/zNbV2JuUEzE" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/zNbV2JuUEzE

  Combining season around the corner... and be here before we know it.


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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."


Posted By: Tom59
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 8:54am
Found this post yesterday and finish reading all of it this morning, really enjoy the stories. I started raising some corn in 1999 and put out about 6 acres that year. Planted it with a borrowed AC 4 row planter in April that spring,. I started a crop with no equipment to harvest it with, so on Memorial Day weekend I went to an estate auction and brought a Little Giant elevator for $600. I was about thirty miles from home and I haul it home on my 20 foot flatbed trailer. I had neighbor that had an New Idea 309 one row snapper picker sitting in a shed he wanted to get rid of. I brought it for $1100 and traded out the payment for the picker round baling hay for him that summer. Found a old gravity box that I put on a JD 953 running gear I had and borrow another wagon when I started picking that fall. I pull the New Idea picker and wagon with a MF 275 tractor. I put all that ear corn crop in a old corn crib on the farm and grind it that winter to feed to weaned calves off my own cows. Used a New Holland 355 grinder mixer for grinding the ear corn. I raise corn and fed to calves for about fifteen years till I sold my cows in summer of 2015 when took a full time job and quit farming full time. Still got all my equipment and still couple loads of ear corn for one of my neighbor for wildlife feed.


Posted By: 1963D17
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 11:40am
What also made IH pickers popular was they used stripper plates rather than snapping rolls. Less shelling. Around here most of the mounted pickers were IH and the pull type New Ideas due to their clean picking. Later on quite few John Deere 300's showed up in the area. 
One of the things that led to a few picker fires beside trash on the manifold was the sediment bowl. When installing the picker you were also supposed to replace the glass bowl with a metal one. Even in the 1990's I was selling a few metal bowls yet. I bought a very nice Allis 35 pull type last year and hope this fall to try it out. All the husking pins are gone so it will be a dirty pick but still fun.


Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 6:26pm
Well, not a picker, but here’s my E. My tenant had been making noises about retiring and I saw it advertised in the OAN. I went back and forth on it and bright and early on a Saturday morning drove from the east side of Des Moines to Gilman IL. One of those “easier to ask for forgiveness than permission” things

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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 6:44pm
Why were the glass bowls a liability on mounted pickers?


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 7:30pm
I still pick about 15 acres of corn each year. Got a 33 mounted on wd45. Not a bad picker but it is hard to get the tractor to go slow enough in heavy corn. Grew up with a 234 ih on a 450. That rig was something else. I think that picker may have been the most reliable implement international ever made. I milk guernseys so I think the cob helps with rumen health and improved butterfat


Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 7:45pm
“ Why were the glass bowls a liability on mounted pickers?”

If they cracked and caught fire, you would have a true inferno before long.


Posted By: 1963D17
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 9:30pm
Originally posted by plummerscarin plummerscarin wrote:

Why were the glass bowls a liability on mounted pickers?
They could crack with the added heat. If you go to a threshing be and see a tractor with a metal bowl, it was a corn picker tractor. I did have a customer who's 706 burned under a picker from stupidity. The 706 Farmalls used a short battery under the fuel tank. The taller 806 battery was cheaper but the terminals would hit the tank. He bought a taller battery and wedged a piece of lumber between the battery and the tank. The board fell out at one point and the battery welded itself to the tank. It turned out to be an expensive battery.


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 10:41pm
Thanks. May explain the metal bowl on my Super M.


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 7:25am
A buddy of mine's Dad ordered a 1066 with NFE and mounted a 234 on it with sheller. Now that would be a corn-picker! He still has the 10, picker replaced with combine long ago.


Posted By: Tom59
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 6:19am
Have a neighbor in the late seventies and early eighties that raise a lot of ear corn had both an Allis Chalmers WD45 gasoline tractor with a New Idea 2 row mounted picker and also an New Idea one row 309 picker. I think his father-in-law ran the ran the WD45 with the mounted picker.



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