Can't Decide D-17 vs. 170

Ok guys I have got it down to 2 possibly three tractors with your help. I am either going with the D-17, 170 or a 165 Massey( only if it falls in my lap). I know the 170 is a newer more advanced tractor, and someone said that the 170 had a live PTO and the D-17 didn't. But here is the kicker, please no one be offended, I think the D-17 is a MUCH better looking tractor personally. i think it just has better lines, and just has a better look, the 170 to me is just square. Now I also think the 170 is a great looking tractor, but not next to the D-17. I am so confused, a buddy just found me a 170 down the road a Richie tractor, and it seems to be a good tractor, but I think I want the D-17, idk help me out guys, gimme your thoughts, D-17 VS. 170?

I will be using a 6 foot hog, and square baling about 25 acres, and possibly leasing some more land to square bale, but that's about it, I will be using it for a post hole auger, but just a small farm and hay baler is about it, I would like to pull a 3 bottom 14 plow with it, but from what I have read THE d-17 will pull a 4 bottom.

BTW, a 7; or 8' Bush Hog will cover a D17 or 170 better, depends on what your mowing I guess (for power) but my 170 is 7'6" across the rear wheels (18.4-28), could squeeze it down some.

Edited by Claus - 22 Jul 2012 at 12:53am

Oh and that's what my friend was telling me, " the 170 has live hydraulics," not a live pto. So if the clutch isn't engaged on the D-17 you can't lift the 3 point right?

PlayGun wrote: Oh and that's what my friend was telling me, " the 170 has live hydraulics," not a live pto. So if the clutch isn't engaged on the D-17 you can't lift the 3 point right?

Live hydraulics on both 170 and Series IV D17, factory 3pt on 170, Series IV D17 had option of factory 3pt or Snap-Coupler.  I believe they are some rare bird 170s with Snap-Couplers but those are few and far between.

Stack came from Steiner Tractor Parts, it's double walled but still turned blue in the curve.

Here is a shot of my D17 I used to have, it was a sharp tractor too.

Can't beat the Power Steering of the 170, yes the D17 has Power Steering as well but weaker system.  The 3pt hitch of the 170 is the same as the 175, 180, 185 and 190, another great feature, you will never hurt that hitch on a 170.

I am not a fan of a Snap-Coupler or a dead hydraulic pump but there are lots of people on this forum that love them both.  I hate 3pt conversion hitches.  These are just my opinions.

Just buy one of each. They are all great.

I like the way the hoods come off on the D17. Don`t like where the battery is on the 170!!!

If you would deliver it for that price-----------------.

FOB, Chester, CT  Delivery would cost me $800- It would be easier to sell it for 4800????? Where do you buy 60HP Real American made tractor for 5K?

In my opinion the series IV 17 is more desireable.  Good styling, more collectability.

D17 series IV gets my vote - mechanically the same as a 170 except for the steering.   The site lines on a D17 are far superior in my opinion.  Big sheet metal obscures visibility on the 170/175.  Servicing the D17 is much easier is well.  There is a lot of time and wrenches involved with removing the hood on a 170.

Both tractors will do the work you described -- comes down to condition, price, and location. The best tractor is the one in the best condition, closer to you, at a price you can afford.  After that, it's just your emotional decision as to which one you like best --- lots of us have bought a tractor based on that - LOL.

Here are a few pics of it.

Buy the 170, take off the fenders and sheet metal and sell them. Go buy the metal for a 17 and put it on