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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50581 |
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You could always do a 10% testing regime. Like me with sending out puns, I sent 10 puns to a friend to see if I could make him laugh... no pun in ten did...
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Walker
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Too much dry air tends to eggcelerate the drying time.
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DaveKamp
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Eggcellerate? You're in the wrong thread.... that goes in the Chicken topic... (but it's a good yolk... you should white them more often...)
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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Walker
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Gotta crack one every now and then.
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DaveKamp
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Fortunately, Kenny, I am not the guy that has to do formal tests, the people strapped to that duty are who I go to to pull records when there's a developing problem. I do my slump and cylinders for my own projects, for my own reference, and the person who determines those requirements, and answers to any failures, is just me but yes, air-entrainment is a concern... like admixtures, application of air entrainment is critical to making certain concrete pours survive freeze-thaw... but to get an accurate measurement in a fresh batch, it really takes a pressure-vessel test, and that's not something I happen to have lying around. I've got several microscopes, so I can cut a piece after-the-fact, and look at a cross-section, but by that time, it's too late. The reports will be a PITA in many ways, but no worse than any other production under 100% quality assurance through statistical process control. Most people don't 'get' the difference between 'quality control', and 'quality assurance'. Quality control is when you use output data of a process, to control the input and process, to provide a production result that is not only the most consistent, but having the lowest failure rate. Quality assurance, is when you check EACH component, and remove any components that failed, so that no matter WHAT goes out, the ONLY thing going out, is 100% good. While you're at it, take all the failed ones, send them back for forensic analysis, find out WHY they failed, follow it back to the Root Cause, and FIX THAT, so the Quality Control number improves.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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Kenny L.
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NEIOWA Points: 1225 |
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I definitely know what you're talking about I was in the game for 27 years and was certified in Agg 1&2 concrete 1&2 and asphalt 1&2 about the only thing I couldn't do was job mixes but help on a lot of them, I done most of the proportionate material for concrete and asphalt yes I run a lot of sample each year, I covered from just out side of Mechanicsville to Montour just east of Marshalltown, had all of the Cedar Rapids area including the quarry on the north side of Robins and the one just west of Springville ,one up by Coggon, also one out by Vinton and one by Garrinson and one we call 4 county just south of the CR airport and three sand pits, The sand pit were just spot check because the plant man was certified also. I would also did a lot of asphalt testing when they were running out of Moscow quarry which is west of Wilton on 6. I remember when doing concrete or asphalt testing the day were long and on the go all the time and the guys that done the daily reports would still be their when I was walking out the door after getting all the test equipment clean up and the lab for the next day some day were 14 hrs and some long if I had to help cut cords in the mornings. I didn't do concrete test all that often just when someone need of or sick. I know with concrete you had to be around it to be good at it, I had to almost carry the book around with me. Thanks for letting rumbling on.
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maresand
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Sometimes I love reading topics like this one—people who ask stupid questions never stop doing that. You never thought about asking the concrete company about that? Sometimes they cannot make it because of issues with the concrete or the type of concrete work they are doing. When one concrete company was doing some siding job at my summer house, it took 2 days to fill the necessary space with concrete. When I asked them why they didn't do this in one day, they answered that if they did that, it would be possible for concrete to be unstable during the incoming rains.
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firutaarnold
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I've heard stories many times that people poured concrete of different colors, although the interval between fills was no more than two hours. It can greatly spoil the appearance of someone's yard or garden. To my friend, the contractors made a terrible path in his cherry orchard. I never turn to migrant workers who don't have certificates that they are professional builders. At my house, the outer walls are lined with volcanic stone. I ordered Lava Rock Wall because I know it looks stylish and cool compared to other ways to decorate the house's walls. When I contacted the construction company, I found out in advance that they have all the necessary certificates. Also, you always need to ask what kind of guarantee builders and contractors give, guys.
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Walker
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I'd expect to see a greenish tint after some time when used in or near water = dam wall, and sich.
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Coke-in-MN
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Someone forgot to ask the company to batch all the ingredients from the same barge or rail car and to make sure it all came from the same kiln and from the same quarry and same depth .
Now if someone had been smart they would have added a color to the job order and poured it all the same tint . It might have been bleach could have been needed or if the calcium chloride used to speed setting was from different batches . You know one way it could have been solved is to add 100 pounds of SUGAR to each truckload . The results would be superb in getting all the pours equal .... |
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Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
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Clay
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Sugar? or Equal in the blue packets?
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Coke-in-MN
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I keep wondering about what one does with all the information one collects after asking a question .
Part of my building inspection Degree was a class on concrete and those credits were something I remember as part of the final was a presentation on Concrete . I did a report on new bridges built in So St Paul MN across Mississippi River using post tension sectional poured modules where each pier was built out to meet the other piers . Was last presentation of class and after the Professor asked me if he could keep all my slides and information to be used for future classes as no one else had ever did research or information on that type of construction. |
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Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
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Dusty MI
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We bought a house/home that built in 2094, it has a poured wall for the foundation/basement walls, it's all concrete gray.
Dusty
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LouSWPA
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I am still confident of this;
I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
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Tbone95
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2094, wow! What's it like then?
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DMiller
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Local concrete company where I grew up used to throw two 50# sacks of Sugar in each truck, should the truck break down and the Pony driven mixer still be running to keep the batch from setting the drivers were instructed mix the sugar in the mix. Would still set up but SOFT, could darn near to remove from the old mixers(7 or 8 yard) with a shovel.
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Gary
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Built in 2094 ! Was it built on the Moon or some other Terrestrial Planet ? G |
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Tbone95
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I heard George Jetson was born on Sunday, so.......
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Dusty MI
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My mistake guys. 1994.
Have a good time. Dusty
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Tbone95
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Didn't mean to pick on ya' Dusty, it's all good. Try not to pick apart typo's much, but that was a funny one! Hope all is well with you. I never did get to stop by on the way to K'zoo..
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Kenny L.
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AllisFreak MN
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What the heck happened to the original poster of this, ole Freebie? He seems to have gone radio silent...
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steve(ill)
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He ran out of stupid questions to ask ??? ................ NAH !
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Lars(wi)
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We ain’t seen hide nor hair of Free base for some time.
Maybe the wife took his toy away from him. |
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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fixer1958
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His old Ford finally ate him
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steve(ill)
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He got stopped at the train tracks of one of them REALLY REALLY LONG TRAINS... Been setting there for 5 weeks !
Hope he had a fish sammich with him .
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Dirt Farmer
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Perhaps he grabbed the wrong bottle, drank the blue fluid and poured the brown bottle in the oval and too ashamed to admit it. Sounds fishy to me
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steve(ill)
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I think he is moving to Washington... I heard Biden gave him a job as the Head of the Dept of Healthy Fast Food specializing in Hamburgers and Chocolate Shakes..
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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DiyDave
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Fart czar?
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AllisFreak MN
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I gotta admit, he was entertaining. Did he pizz off the Mod?
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