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    Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 7:45am
Fixer, it amazed me how much more I enjoy that tractor after the install. Well worth the time spent. Have one more set-up that will probably go on WD Micha when I get time.
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Very clean nice setup. PS makes a world of difference.
Mine is very similar that I got from a tractor salvage yard.
Double crank pulley, steering shaft, pump everything for $400.
Pump wasn't any good and I told them about it and they bought me another.
I like it.
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Good to hear from you Ted.

Put the sheet-metal back on yesterday and plowed the garden.
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I'm gonna have to go out and look at mine and see how it was done?  It's all of 15 degrees here this am.  WHAT a change over a week ago!!  DANG,,,,,I'm getting to hate this cold any more.
Thanks for the update Mike!
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Here's an update to this old thread; When I installed the power-steering, there were some clearance issues with belt and hoses. Well, they finally reared their ugly head. The ps belt rubbed a hole in the bypass hose and the pulley was rubbing one in the top radiator hose. What I decided to do, after looking at the NF 45, is bend a pipe nipple to make the curve in the bypass hose. Long story short, heated it up with the torch and bent until it was about the same bend as the hose. Used lots of pipe dope on the threads and used the straight,(undamaged) part of the hose. Was able to get enough clearance to go with a 1"shorter belt which can now be run tighter for less slap. Also got the pulley away from the top hose. As you can see in the picture, it's very 'busy' in the pump area. I post this update in hopes that it might help someone in the future.
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Last installment in this story, I think. Rain day here on Sunday. Friend of mine was over, he spotted my safety-wire pliers and asked what they were. I explained a little, then got to thinking I hadn't wired those roll pins in the 45 so we moved things around a bit and now they will stay put. The safety wire may not be necessary but is piece of mind. Had a roll pin come out on the Narrow front once, it's a little disturbing to turn the wheel and nothing happens. Have seen these pins held in with heat-shrink tubing, just working with what I have.
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I meant to mention, (and forgot) before I started the PS project I 'synced' the governor as per Doctor Allis. This made a big difference as the governor was kind of dead. Never any shortage of power, just had to compensate by hand. Would have never guessed I would have to bend the linkage rod that much to make it right. Now the governor works nicely.
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Ted, the weights are 300 lbs. I would think a front end loader would be more than that even empty? Anyway, they are all staying on there, don't want one getting lost or being a trip hazard.

Dave, I will try to get some video plowing with it. I might get the plow out in August. Then figuring out how to get the video on here.

I picked up a really nice pair of fenders at Lathrope this spring. They and a nice toolbox are next on the list for paint and install. Also started on a different shifter yesterday.

Maybe I should start a general refurbishment thread?
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Mike, we DEFINITELY need a video of your '45 in action!!
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It's looking great Mike!  I love my 45 with the PS on it too, makes it a whole nother tractor!  Wish I had a setup for my D-17 as it steers REAL hard.
I had heard that 4 stack weights were bad for a WF?  The books only called for 3...  I've seen the front bending on some tractors.
Take care and hope to see you soon....
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Not sure weather to wrap this thread up or keep going with it. The power steering is on and working and best of all, keeping it's oil where it belongs. Doing this got me motivated to freshen up the paint but I'm running out of time for that. Hopefully get back to it later this year.

One of the big motives for the PS was easier steering with the stack weights installed, put them on yesterday. I would have liked to paint them first....

I think it's ready for a plowday, now if we just had one to go to.
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Lon, I found those at Colfax tractor parts. It pays to look every once in a while! Haven't been for a time, probably should go.
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Big weights on the rear. Where did you find them?
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Thanks Dave.
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Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cleaned up, painted, and installed the hood. Need to get a set of decals headed this way. Shiny new muffler in this photo too!
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Thanks Dave. Now have power steering on 3 out of five WD's/45's. If I find another ps setup, the WD, Micha, will be next in line. 'Grandpa' will be fine without. Though he does wear a two row front mounted cultivator, not enough use to justify all the work/expense.

If I live long enough, the factory PS setup on the '57 has some pretty serious leaks that need addressed. As well as many other issues. That will be harder as I have only the one with factory setup. Nice to have a reference machine when working on something like this. Might have to get better about taking pics before tearing into it!
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Very nice, Mike! Nifty project - wouldn't mind doing that to my WD45 if ever I run across a set of the parts.

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For those of you that have been following, you note the change of habitat! Got her put together today, filled up the fluid and put some gas in. When first fired up I turned the wheel without thinking and thought WOW, that was easy! Did not see any leaks and the belt seems tight enough, a pinch more wouoldn't hurt but there is only about 1/8th inch clearance between the top radiator hose and the pump pulley. Now to get the hood painted and maybe pick up some decals in Amana this weekend. Stack weights are going to get a coat of paint and installed too.

This project will continue to 'evolve' as time moves forward. Got lots of things in mind but need to move  on to other things.
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Light at the end of the tunnel, starting to look like a tractor again. More three steps forward, two back. Most aggravating part is the damage to the new paint! I may actually be able to drive this thing around this weekend, I hope!



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Made a little progress today. Going back together slowly, mounted the alternator. Looking at it the belt alignment was not good. As fun as that belt is to change I thought I would tweak it a bit. Slotted one hole in my home-made alt. bracket and shimmed it forward a pinch, much better.

My OCD seams to be rearing it's head. Everything I look at needs fresh paint. Screws and washers for the gas tank band. Filed the burrs off, wire brushed and paint.
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Ted, not sure when I'll next get to your lovely state. I would like to go to the Barboo antique power show this August, (I think it's in August). The last I saw it is still on. Went to it three years ago, great show!
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Originally posted by Ted J Ted J wrote:

I haven't been on here Mike, so I have missed this whole thing.  I didn't have any internet at the farm so I miss a lot all summer.  Now I can get internet through my cell phone so I should be on here more.

 Ted is that a good thing, just saying.Cool
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I haven't been on here Mike, so I have missed this whole thing.  I didn't have any internet at the farm so I miss a lot all summer.  Now I can get internet through my cell phone so I should be on here more.

Looks like a lot of 3 steps, 2 steps.  You're right, but you're headed down the right road.
NICE JOB!!

When are you headed up to get some more beer?  That looks like a dry hot job and can bring on a big thirst.....Big smile
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Let the reassembly begin! Finally got done cleaning and painting,(for now) and am getting things back together. Pump and reservoir are mounted, hope the belt is tight enough. I bought new hose for the returns and had a new pressure hose so all should be well there.
Bought enough hose that I can replace the sad ones on the other tractor also. I believe I have the leak in that system under control so will move the reservoir to the valve cover also.
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Spent quite a bit of time working on this on Friday, planning on the same today. This power-steering install has somehow turned into a quasi paint job. That wasn't my original intention but no time like the present. I would probably get this thing back together a lot faster if I would quit tearing it apart. I wasn't happy with the paint on the fuel tank, may have been in a hurry when I did the propane unconversion. So it came off for a little facelift.

How far do you go with something like this? I keep looking at things that could use a fresh coat of paint, like that starter. It may come out today for it's paint!

When getting ready to paint the reservoir, how do you suspend this silly thing? Answer, drill a 1/8" hole in one ear of the wingnut.





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Time for a quick update before I head for the farm to continue on this thing. I have been experiencing a lot of three steps forward and two back. Seems to no end of the small parts I see and think, now is the time to pain that. There is no real time-frame that I 'need' this tractor. Local antique power show in August has already been cancelled.

HudCo, that pump mount has fought valiantly! I 'think' I'm happy with it now, it took LOTS of massaging to get it right. I had painted it last year, by the time I was satisfied with the fit the paint was damaged pretty bad so I stripped it back to shiny and repainted it.

One little note about this mounting; the set-up came off a WD with the three inch head and is going on a 45. Not a lot of difference but not a direct swap either.

I thought since I'm painting, these lift links for a 50 series plow just as well get some too. They have been laying on the bench taking up space long enough need to get them on the plow and out of the way!

Couple of pics of my progress.






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HudCo, we are getting close to mounting the pump and reservoir. I'll get pics when I do. I installed the two grove pulley on the crank a few years back when the engine was out for a rear main seal job. The thing that keeps slowing me down is continuing to find things that need cleaned-up/painted as I go along. No better time to do it than now. Today the steering support and hydraulic, starter, and choke levers got removed for the paint process. Stopping there for now, I have a shifter in the basement that is going to get gone through and installed at some point in the future.

These components came from a WD I bought a few years ago, basically for the power steering. Compression was low on the engine so it turned into a parts machine.
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where did  you get your componants ?  or what were they off of?
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lets see your tank and pump mounting,thanks hud 
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