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    Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 2:54pm
Stopped by the "local" AGCO dealer today and they had rattle cans in. $12 a piece for PO#1.
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If you look at tractorpartsasap.com they have both Persian one and two in rattle cans, quart, and gallon.
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I like that color that Kelso shot. Looks a lot like the color my Tractors are. I'll probably be doing my B over in the next year or so, so I'll be in the same boat with paint again. I used the Nason on my Tractors. Had my body man shoot them. I don't paint or have a place to paint, so its easier to let my body man paint the pieces in his booth...
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Just an FYI, I went to my local AGCO dealer (~70 miles away) and they have quart cans of PO#1 but the part number seems different and it is a low VOC listing. $38 a can.
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Originally posted by garden_guy garden_guy wrote:

So I did a couple days worth of work trying to peel off layers of grease and dirt and clay from my WD, and I think this paint I uncovered looks pretty much like what I assume it did originally? Or does this seem a bit dark/faded?



take some 600 or 800 grit sand paper to it and maybe a bit of water. That should get you the original color. 
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I am happy with it.  If I can remember to take my phone with me I will get a picture of the tractor assembled.
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AC160 -- That looks nice!! Are you happy with it? Looks good from what I can see.

AC720Man -- Thanks for the info!
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Originally posted by garden_guy garden_guy wrote:

Has anyone tried AGCO's Persian Orange #1? Part 79021641 for the 1 Qt container. Was curious how the color looked and how well it held up to the weather/scratches?


One of my first tries at painting with a hvlp gun using AGCO's PO#1 paint.
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I use the acrylic enamel personally. It sprays very smooth and doesn’t run as easy as other paints that I’ve tried. PPG is excellent paint.
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Has anyone tried AGCO's Persian Orange #1? Part 79021641 for the 1 Qt container. Was curious how the color looked and how well it held up to the weather/scratches?

Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

You are looking for an acrylic enamel which is automotive paint...  as mentioned , for more money you can get Urethane or Epoxy, but the ACRYLIC is good quality paint.


If I am having someone do some spraying for me on my WD, which of the three is the best bet? Acrylic, Urethane or Epoxy? Do some of them take special applicators?
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When we moved down here to Mesa almost 11 years ago, I bought 6 cans of Persain Orange for AMAC knowing it would be hard to get down here.   After using the last can about two years ago I took a sample to my NAPA store about a mile away and she matched it perfectly.   I just picked up two cans yesterday as I paint all of my models the correct color.  I buy aerosol so it doesn't spoil.  Just shoot it into a jar and then into my airbrush.   I can probably get their code if anyone needs it.    Armand
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When I was 5 or 6 I watched a neighbor's B delivered.  As I remember it wasn't shiny orange but it seemed pretty bright orange, would have been 1954 or '55.  Personally,m I like the bright color, it just really stands out and grabs you.
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I think the ORIGINAL paints did not have the SHINE or BRIGHT that todays paints have.. But i think the COLOR is the same..






Edited by steve(ill) - 08 Dec 2020 at 7:46pm
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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So I did a couple days worth of work trying to peel off layers of grease and dirt and clay from my WD, and I think this paint I uncovered looks pretty much like what I assume it did originally? Or does this seem a bit dark/faded?
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Oh yeah that looks fantastic, thank you so much for the response!
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Hi Garden_guy,

Sorry for the delay in giving an update on the PPG paint.

I have been painting a lot since July and below is a photo of my painting tractor parts with the new non-lead PPG 60080.  The lighting does play with the tone color.  This is under fluorescent lighting.

I have most parts painted and will show more pictures as I get the C together.

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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

I would talk to your local Supplier or Body Shop to see if he has the info.. If not, have him call...

The updated non-leaded 60080 formula is not in the PPG database yet so when a PPG rep looks it up they only find the leaded formula.  Have them call the PPG library and get the non-leaded 60080 formula for your paint.


Thanks, I appreciate this. Making a note in my hardcopy files of tractor stuff for my WD when buying paint.
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I would talk to your local Supplier or Body Shop to see if he has the info.. If not, have him call...

The updated non-leaded 60080 formula is not in the PPG database yet so when a PPG rep looks it up they only find the leaded formula.  Have them call the PPG library and get the non-leaded 60080 formula for your paint.
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Originally posted by kelso kelso wrote:

another update on PPG Persian Orange #1 paint #60080.

I was not able to get the remaining PPG toner M130 which is discontinued as expected.

But my local PPG paint guy called the PPG library and was able to get an updated non-leaded MTK 60080 formula that has been created by PPG to replace the leaded 60080 formula. The same PO #1 formula number is used i.e., 60080.

I did not get a copy of the formula but the leaded toners M130 (orange) and M114 (yellow) were dropped and replaced by different toners.

The updated non-leaded 60080 formula is not in the PPG database yet so when a PPG rep looks it up they only find the leaded formula.  Have them call the PPG library and get the non-leaded 60080 formula for your paint.


Has anybody tried this yet? I may have some painting I need to do soon, and was just curious.
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55allis,

I did not see the name spectramaster yellow listed.  There is a yellow toner M115 used.

For PPG paint it still goes by the code 60080.
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Looks really close. Do they call it spectramaster yellow?
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another update on PPG Persian Orange #1 paint #60080.

I was not able to get the remaining PPG toner M130 which is discontinued as expected.

But my local PPG paint guy called the PPG library and was able to get an updated non-leaded MTK 60080 formula that has been created by PPG to replace the leaded 60080 formula. The same PO #1 formula number is used i.e., 60080.

I did not get a copy of the formula but the leaded toners M130 (orange) and M114 (yellow) were dropped and replaced by different toners.

The updated non-leaded 60080 formula is not in the PPG database yet so when a PPG rep looks it up they only find the leaded formula.  Have them call the PPG library and get the non-leaded 60080 formula for your paint.

I got a sample to test out and below is a quick tests.  Let me know what ya'll think of the color.
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Thanks 55allis for your info.  Today I found out that the local PPG paint shop at the NAPA store found 2 quarts remaining of the orange toner M130 from a sister store. He is getting that M130 toner and can make up the paint I need for painting my model C project so for now I have found what I need.  Cheers, Tim
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I used the nason On my rims and I thought it looked nice.


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Tom,

Are anyone else, Were you able to get a good PPG match on the newest 60080 formula? I need to get PO #1 for my 1949 C that I have been restoring.  If so can you provide the formula information. Thanks, Tim
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No Bob........... you should not be using an alkyd enamel... Thats generic paint you get at the hardware store to paint the kids swing set...

You are looking for an acrylic enamel which is automotive paint...  as mentioned , for more money you can get Urethane or Epoxy, but the ACRYLIC is good quality paint.
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Originally posted by BobDinNC BobDinNC wrote:

When I ask for the PPG industrial paints they quoted a price for DEVGUARD 4308 ALKYD INSTUSTIRAL GLOSS ENAMEL.  Is that what I should be looking for? It was only $43/gallon and I've been paying $35/qt for the automotive paint.
Their high grade products begin with a “QT”. The QT380 is a urethane that is high quality. QT150 is a high solids acrylic enamel. You can find all of their industrial products on the PPG FINE FINISH web site
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When I ask for the PPG industrial paints they quoted a price for DEVGUARD 4308 ALKYD INSTUSTIRAL GLOSS ENAMEL.  Is that what I should be looking for? It was only $43/gallon and I've been paying $35/qt for the automotive paint.
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I just checked last week they said 60080 no longer available because of the additives to get the correct color they said bring a sample and they can shot it and should be able to match so I will know in a couple weeks let you know how it comes out
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