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changing my new to me 190 gas to diesel |
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AC720Man
Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 4637 |
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Posted: 21 Jun 2019 at 1:07pm |
Good to see another 190XT back in action.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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I appreciate you guys and your advice. Let me try and ease your minds. I got the loader with the engine doner tractor. The only thing I plan to pick up with the loader is the hay ring. Did do it for the picture. Also I am going to try and build a subframe back to the rear end. I'd much rather have a lightweight Allis loader but I don't.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 7946 |
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Yeah this set up isn't good! The loader frame needs to be reinforced to the back axle ,, and the ole West Allis metal is getting fragile in high stress points! Seen it happen!
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19508 |
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The tractor will break in half just behind the bell housing. Have seen it four times in the last 40 yrs and each time it was big round bales on the front and the rear.
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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here is my 69 series 3
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7204 |
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Lose the muffler. The turbo breaks up the sound waves. The muffler restricts airflow and holds heat in. Turbo 190s never had mufflers.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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DougS
Orange Level Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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Probably not carried by Wal Mart, but sold by a third party through the Wal Mart web page. You can usually have the item delivered to your local Wal Mart for pickup. Wal Mart is trying to position themselves as another Amazon. Of course they get a cut of the action. I like to look and see if the seller has their own web page. Sometimes it's available at a slightly lower price and sometimes they don't charge sales tax. Of course you get good buyer protection when purchased through Wal Mart. |
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Lonn
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29773 |
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Be careful going over rough ground with that set up. Could crack the torque tube.
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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exSW
Orange Level Joined: 21 Jul 2017 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 914 |
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The one I bought said A&I right on it. Guy that put the engine together said he found the China markings later. That long term project is dang neat done so I'll run it and see. I've had a bone for a 190xt for a long time. This isn't AC country and 190's are not common and still not ever cheap.Could slinging a combine engine in a gas be a viable option? Edited by exSW - 27 Apr 2019 at 3:04pm |
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JayIN
Orange Level Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982 |
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Wal Mart????? Holy cow!!!! Whooed a thunkit?
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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The only real hang up was running a fuel return line back to the tank. I bought some braided stainless line and AN fittings and ran one back to the tank inside the cab and dumped it in the top of the tank. I'll post some pics of how I did that also.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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When I googled searched for turbos it popped up and I told my wife this has got to be a scam. She orders things there all the time so she got on her account and put in the part # Shure enough there it was. I couldn't believe it. It's definitely a Chinese copy of A&I. All I had to do was run a new oil feed and return as I had a Rayjay. Turbo seems like it's going to be fine. I'll post some pics of it.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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exSW
Orange Level Joined: 21 Jul 2017 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 914 |
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I'm trying to grasp the concept of buying a turbo at WalMart. I did buy an HX35 on line several years ago. Turned out to be an A&I. And still turned out to be Chinese.
Were there any major hangups in the gas to diesel switch? Edited by exSW - 27 Apr 2019 at 10:39am |
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TramwayGuy
Orange Level Access Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Location: Northern NY Points: 11204 |
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I am curious whether the 190XT gas ever got the 4-pinion rear end setup, or was it limited to the Turbo only?
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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started it up tonight for the first time since the swap. Been slow going waiting on seals and parts also life tends to get in the way. I found a brand-new turbo online at Wal-Mart.com. 209.00 free shipping ! Seems to be fine.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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She's standing on her own now. New clutch, pressure plate, pilot bearing and throw out bearing. |
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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Dakota Dave
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3893 |
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In the summer I pull the pin and remove the lower door it hangs in the tractor shop. I have aftermarket steps it's a lot easier to get in and out than the horible factory step.
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ac fleet
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2204 |
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10-4 on the inner door hittin the clutch peddle , I got used to it and the cab is nice. I only have the cab on this one and the two 440's, It's a luxury to me since I never had them on any other tractors.
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TimNearFortWorth
Orange Level Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |
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Made by Stolper, that inward swinging bottom door half takes a bit of getting used. Could not give mine away off a Series Three so cut it off in pieces.
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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DiyDave the gas motor is in the parts tractor and bolted together. I thought about selling it but I figure It'll be worth more to me having it around for parts. Especially since I have have two to keep running for another 50 years.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50528 |
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Put the gas motor back into the parts tractor, and you might just pay fer the deal!
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Ron(AB)
Orange Level Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Location: Alberta Points: 943 |
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Looks like fun!
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ac fleet
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2204 |
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I have a 190 xtd lll with a cab just like yours! ---The cab is really nice on these, other than a bit hard for me to get in and out of! I still love them. As for making diesel out of gas,--- I would prefer gas! (I have had it with diesel motors!) ---They can use a lot of gas, BUT it does depend on how hard you pull them! My buddy has one ans it seams to be within reason as far as gas consumption! You will have a nice tractor when you get it going! thanks; ac fleet
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tomstractorsandtoys
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Feb 2015 Location: wi Points: 515 |
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Looks like you are going to have a nice tractor when finished. I have put diesel engines in several low hour gas tractors(Deere 3020 and 4020's). The difference in wear makes it very worth doing. Someday I want a 190 xt as my grandfather had a brand new one. I also like the looks of the Allis cab. Thanks for posting. Tom
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ksbowman
Silver Level Joined: 19 Mar 2013 Location: Paola, Ks Points: 226 |
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I'll second the jack idea. I'm going to file that one for later use too.
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oldways
Silver Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 507 |
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The Jack's are very handy. I've split my B with the same set. Fully adjustable, and simple.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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