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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30738 |
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Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 6:42am |
Danged old farm tractor had a bad tire, was ripping open across the tread face so decided to swap it to a spare. 18.4x28
Hammered on it til could not any further, rolled wheel and all off and tried another farm tractor(did not work) then stepped up the game as I WAS really ANGRY at this point!! Tire came free. Was hard rusted to the rim!! It was coming off or was going to destroy it where would have to buy another wheel!! |
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22272 |
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If I had a 'yellow tire removal device' like yours, I'd have used it FIRST..
one of them 'gettin older,work smarter, not harder' things.... these days it takes a LOT longer to heal form say,whackin yourself with a hammer'... Jay |
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
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jerbob
Orange Level Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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Must have been the weekend for tire changing DMIller.
My Bobcat decided that it was time to test my patience. Had to get a round bale for our horses and came to a flat tire. Plugged it 2x before it would take as it is a tubeless tire. Then strapped it to get it hold air as the bead had broken. After a couple of hours,,,, success. |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30738 |
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I hear both of ya!! I had considered the yellow dog but the other side tire had come off relatively easy two years ago. Rim fell apart on that one and the spare (one of two I had) I installed on that new rim went on smooth! This one not so much so!!
To top it all off, probably pinched the tube yesterday fighting with it, leaked down overnight so spare has to come half way BACK off!! DANGIT! Edited by DMiller - 23 Jan 2018 at 2:08pm |
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3323 |
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Tire repairs always hold an uncertainty. One of my least favorite jobs. On an upbeat note, viewing from your photo, you didn't have a foot of snow that you had to work in.
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JC-WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 33780 |
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Tires, you never know... Hauled a load of moo-moos yesterday 50+ miles and had this happen a mile from destination. Just kept going and unloaded and then went another mile to a tire shop. Didn't have a spare with me for the trailer, other than a different size wheel for the truck.
They were real busy so i asked if they would loan me a jack and a wrench. Dang nuts were really on tight but got them cracked loose and jacked up. and then rolled the wheel in and a bare rim and got couple good tires put on. paid them and got back on the road and hit the wet slippery crap snow going home... Funnier part was, I checked the tire pressure of all four wheels in the morning and this tire was always at 70# pressure and did not see any cracks in the casing either, and thought to myself that it was the best tire on the trailer. LOL |
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30738 |
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Almost the most certain going to have to fix parts.
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Ian Beale
Orange Level Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 960 |
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" Was hard rusted to the rim!!"
As were two on our AC Forty Five when we got it. No idea of when they had last been moved. First one didn't respond to the usual treatments. As we needed it I had to cut the centre out with a chainsaw and then had to oxy the beads off. So much for that tube. The second one I made a 4-legged frame that fits over the centre and used the quick drop blade on the FA 10 as the hammer. Eventually the beads came free. Saved the tube in that one. |
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jerbob
Orange Level Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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We all have stories for sure. Love the pics.
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Walker
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: oh Points: 8336 |
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If it was a junk tire I'd given it a Sawzallpendectomy.
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30738 |
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Would have but needed the tube and did not wish rim damage unless was angry enough to take my vengeance upon it!!
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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ya'll needs to take lessons from Eldon!
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LeonR2013
Orange Level Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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If you plan on changing tires for a few more years you need a slide hammer. Still hard work but you can save the tire and wheel in most cases.
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The Consultator
Silver Level Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Location: Rio Rancho, NM Points: 120 |
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Glad to hear that you all finally got things sorted out! Murphy always makes a causal appearance...
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1939 Allis-Chalmers "B" restored in 2010- very good condition.
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30738 |
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Hi Leon, I do have a 20# tire slide hammer bead breaker, all it would do was bounce. Left the bucket on the unhammered side for five minutes before it finally let loose!! Was rust glued TIGHT! Previous repair happened nine years ago, old and replaced tube had calcium mix in it so was very little rust on a fairly new rim then, failed to think it soaked into the dry rot on the bead edges and then sat on the tractor for nine years. Had methanol in the tube this time.
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Dozer
Orange Level Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Location: SW New York Points: 689 |
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Had a very bad day working in a garage with a car on a lift
Had to hit something Had a rubber hammer in my hand Hit the car tire hard The rebound laid me out on the garage floor Never did that again |
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michale34
Silver Level Joined: 15 Mar 2011 Location: arkansas Points: 472 |
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We were working on a skidder one time in the winter in the shop. we had a nice hot fire burning in the 55 gallon drum wood heater and so on. The boss had his skatterbrained teenage son in there with us .He was suspose to be cleaning the shop .We had just changed hoses and flushed out the radiator and refilled it with new antifreeze and we went on replacing other things. It got real hot in that shop .the boy put the old hoses in the heater and it was burning glowing red. The boss saw the smoke and flames comming out of the chemley and saw what he had done .As he was walking out cussing and carrying on he football kicked a antifreeze box that he thought was empty but his son had put a battery in it and left it on the floor. He ended up with 4 broke toes and a fractured foot I would say he had a bad day!!!
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4475 |
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What is that change them every month.
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4475 |
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Post pounder and a digging bar will improvise for us cheap folks that don't do it to often.
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jerbob
Orange Level Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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Holy Crap you were lucky it just laid ya out Dozer
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 51384 |
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I bought one of these, coupla years ago:
ON EDIT, link don't work, Go to Northern tool, search tractor tire removal tool... Mine has a little different clamp, but works on the same principal... Sure saves them choice words, fer another occasion...
Edited by DiyDave - 24 Jan 2018 at 6:13pm |
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LeonR2013
Orange Level Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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Not trying to be a smart-azz (Oh yes you are)(NO I not!)(yes you is)(Oh shut up). If your break down tool was bouncing back at you, you were probably holding it too straight up and down. Lay it as flat as you can to drive it under the rim as far as you can. Move over about an inch and do it again. Sometimes you have to go all the way around doing this. Once you've got that done you can stand the tool up a bit and go around it again. Keep a chair close at all times.
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JC-WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 33780 |
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and a case of beer?
DD, heres a link... http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200350008_200350008 |
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30738 |
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Been knocking down tires since 1976, was holding the bead breaker into the groove(what was of it) trying to angle in and get as hard to the bead and at the rim as possible. I am thinking will invest in a jack style bead breaker, have already bought a gallon of slimy bead lube(blue color) and trust me made a world of difference just going back on with that old hard spare getting it to break over the rim and bead seat. Suspicion is the last tire shop did as I used to, a heavy soapy water lube solution then as the old tire was dry rot checked and the calcium chloride had leached into the beads had just made for some nasty rust glue.
All good today so far, tire held 28# air all night, beads are fully seated so later today after a little semi-retired work will ballast it up. |
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jerbob
Orange Level Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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Good Luck D. Sounds like you might have it. It took me 3x's so far to get my Bobcat tire to hold air longer than 3 days. Not a bead issue but a puncture relate. The typical plug repair kit available is not designed for tractor tires and the plug material is not the old reliable rubber plugs but a lightweight material that is not holding up. Have refused to convert tire from tubeless to a tube but may be forced to.
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DMiller
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I EVEN own an old tubeless bead hammer, full 36" handle five pound head and it would not enter the slot rim to tire, hammered with both a long time finally gave in to hilift.
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pinball
Orange Level Access Joined: 28 May 2014 Location: missouriu Points: 6079 |
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The local guy here that sells tires and is very good told me he learned a trick for getting those old tires busted lose . he said its sort of dangerous but has never failed him yet. he pours some gasoline around the rim. lets it set for about 5 minutes then stands back and lights it and poof the tire will unseat from the rim. course I would want to be outside if I tried it. I can see how dangerous it could be and am not advocating this but I suspect if you just put a small amount at first I can see how it might work. might be a trial and error thing. for me though I just take it to him but that sure would beat the heck out of using that sledge. just my thought.
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tadams(OH)
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10028 |
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With this great gasoline we have now if you wait five minutes it probably would light.
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Ian Beale
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Like that fireproof paper and FUM (*) brand matches we get (*) F-in' Useless Matches |
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22818 |
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Dozer dozing |
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