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 Posted: 20 Feb 2017 at 9:21am |
Awesome job  .
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AC Mel
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 10:29pm |
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Lee, I know what you're talking about with the military switch. I'm pretty sure that these 20s were not military. I think that was the switch of the day, maybe left over from the military days? I'm going to go look at the spec plate again too.
Steve, We've never used that dash setup either. I'm going to sign on with Ray. I remember the pint size cans of either. They were Chevron, and my father would take the air cleaner top of and dump 1/2 capfull from the either can into the air cleaner to start up. I remember using it more on the Detroits, the HD10, HD9G,not as much on the HD11 until it started getting tired. We're in relatively warm country so I'm sure those features were used in the colder parts of the country. The 516 HD11 had a history of hard starting until the upgraded to the direct injection 10000 engine around 1960.
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 9:53pm |
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I think that the ether capsules were sometime called ether eggs. Darrel
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 6:50pm |
Steve if I am looking at the same thing you are ether came in a capsule. The only ones I remember seeing have been in a picture on the net,maybe even here.
Uncle told me he first got it in pint can like brake fluid,put it in pump type oil can to give them a spray. But would evaporate out of the pump can. So the capsule was second way of delivery and they could be injured and dry out as well. The spray can we have today was much better so capsules where used for a very short time only.
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Lee Bradley
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 6:30pm |
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Looks like your HD-20 was a military machine. Has the military switch and looks like a mil-spec plate below the gauges. My HD-7W was built for the military but the contract was canceled and it was repainted orange and was sold on the civilian market.
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 3:41pm |
Hey Mel have you ever used the either starter set up on the dash? we have one on Dads old HD6 but have never found what was used in there?
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 1:03pm |
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Most people probably wouldn't even consider my best stuff good doner material. But that's what this broke bast....Feller is stuck with. Darrel
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 10:40am |
JC, the disconnect switch got mounted in the battery box on the battery hold down bracket. Not to fancy but it will work. I actually removed it from a HD16 "donor" (one of the ones the state made the auction people cut a hole in the block) rather than make one. AC7060, Yes the aircraft paint remover worked good. One of the things we learned was in this cold weather if you used the hot pressure washer and got the steel as warm as possible before putting it on it worked best. The vendor we used also said in the summer to cover it with black plastic for a few minutes, that helped keep the moisture in it also.
Mike, We call these heaters "smudge pots" These all originated from the grape and pear growers around here. Originally a 5 gallon bucket with diesel in it,then the early pots that had no return pipe, then to be legal you had to have a return pipe like these. And then the price of diesel put them all out of business. (they use water for frost protection now). Yes the recipe for fuel could be a lot of things. Straight diesel burns the cleanest. If you put to much other stuff in there it seems to crud up sooner (drain oil, etc.) I'm sure it won't surprise any one to know that right now the best fuel recipe we have is "DONOR TRACTOR FUEL!!) It still burns pretty good after 30,40,50 years. Also I'm starting to think Eric might have a good point. Over the years our attitudes have changed about "donor tractors" I think at first we were going to save them all, (IRON DISEASE) Now when we make a move it's usually something that has the easiest parts to get to. So yes in a blink of the eye it could be a "donor" SO DARELL, PLEASE FILL THE FUEL TANK FIRST CAUSE WERE ALMOST OUT OF DONOR TRACTOR FUEL FOR THE SMUDGE POT!!
Had enough time yesterday with no rain to put the radiator on. Put the tarps back up. Expecting 2-4" of rain today through Tue. (raining now)
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 8:59am |
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that's prolly true! lol
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 8:03am |
 shameless (ne) wrote:
you mean you gots yer hands dirty this time? (poke,poke)
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my hands get dirtier before breakfast, than yours do all day long. Lol darrel
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Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 1:11am |
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you mean you gots yer hands dirty this time? (poke,poke)
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 8:05pm |
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Yes Eric that could happen. And if Mel and his crew did re-do it, it for sure would be too pretty for what I have in mind to use it for. I made some fair progress on it today, so maybe things are looking up. Darrel
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Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 4:01pm |
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and if they did re-do it for ya Darrell, it'd be to pretty to use! take yer big loader up there and gits that done!
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Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 3:28pm |
darrel in ND wrote:
I wonder if Mel and the crew would notice if I snuck my 5G into their shop in place of that 11, or if they would just put it together for me. Lol Darrel |
Darrel...the big risk in doing this...because everything happens fast around Mel's yard?? It would make your heart drop if Mel posted pictures saying "a donor 5G just appeared'' and yeah...it's all in pieces and transplanted where needed 
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Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 3:03pm |
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You got a good heat sourse there i got a couple of those heaters I put about 2.5 gallons of diesel and about 2.5 of used motor oil in mine we used them for years in the logging woods dad called them choofa heaters from the sounds they make
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Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 7:35am |
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Mel, I have enjoyed viewing your post - thank you for sharing great photos & text. The Aircraft paint remover looks to work good in combination with power washer. Wow - the 516 cleaned up nice.
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 2:24am |
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I wonder if Mel and the crew would notice if I snuck my 5G into their shop in place of that 11, or if they would just put it together for me. Lol Darrel
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Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 1:18am |
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It is looking sweeter all the time... Love the pictures...
Did not see where you put the quick disconnect.
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Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 11:54pm |
Ok, Here's todays progress report. It rained!. Got the battery boxes and batteries on. All new cables made up (from "donor tractor" cables) added a disconnect switch which was not available in 1955. I'm ready for the gauges so we tried to fast track them today. David used the bead blaster to prep the dash gauge holder. These were original style gauges from different tractors for this vintage. We desperately need to paint today David opted for just a few needed items today due to RAIN!!  We had to move the painting inside again.So once the paint is on we move it into our organic heat controlled paint both for curing. It's very technical and probably causes global warming (but it sure works good) Hoping to fire this puppy up by Sunday night (I'll keep you posted)
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Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 4:57am |
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they make everything look so easy!
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Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 4:28am |
She's coming along nicely Mel, You blokes have a nice set up I like them heavy duty stands the track frames are sitting on !
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Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 10:36pm |
So since Dave ask ,we're out of harms way. About 3-1/2 hours away. But I can tell a story. 2 years ago we responded to a wild fire for Cal Fire with our dozer. It started at the edge of lake Orville on the up stream side and burned 1000 acres into the Plumas National Forest. We reported to the Enterprise Boat ramp for staging, once there they decided that I would not start until morning shift. So if you look of the nose of the transport in this picture down the boat ramp you can see the brown dirt of the banks of the lake. I walked to the end of the pavement of the boat ramp. It would have been at least 2 MILES ! to the waters edge from the end of the boat ramp, probably 500' in elevation.
So I know how you guys like to pick on these Californians, this is my take on it. The politicians and special interest groups that run this state have been so busy promoting the drought and GLOBAL WARMING that they convinced enough people that the lake could never fill again!! so they could save the maintenance money for there special pet projects (paybacks hell) Yes there are some real KNUCKLEHEADS!! running this state (we couldn't agree more, we're living it) So back to tractoring.It supposed to start raining tomorrow so I've been gathering parts out side as possible.Got this GARWOOD 151 front cable control unit removed from a donor HD16 today (hope it works)
Got some loaner gauges out of an HD20. We're trying to use original gauges from the same time frame as the machine. Had to go to the south 40 to get a cable sheave off a HD11 angle blade C frame to put on the straight blade we'll be using,it was previously hydraulic. So Davids been painting as much as possible due to weather. It was 72 degrees today. Got 1 swing frame done today(can you smell it?) pretty!! hope to get the other one tomorrow before the rain begins We'll have enough parts painted that we will be able to work inside for several days. That's where were at today. Actually HD6 STEVE is in Orville, haven't heard from him for a while. He got clutch parts from us,then had some steering clutch problems he was working on. Maybe we might have to mount a rescue effort to save the HD6. (you know first things first)
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Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 3:15pm |
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They're gonna need more than dozers I dare say. May need some well placed prayers starting about a week ago.
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Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 6:12am |
Don't know where Mel is re this issue, but it looks like they're gonna need a few dozers, there, soon...
[TUBE]http://youtu.be/nCIg7VI7gVo[/TUBE]
Good luck, Mel, hope ya keep yer feet dry...
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Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 1:48am |
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Yea Darrel, that Fuel tank sure does shine don't it. Caught my eye too...
Those boys out there sure do a fine job of restoring them old toys. sheesh if one just had a 10th of their talents...
Seen the double lip rollers, weren't they suppose to be every other on them or was that for certain applications?
Gees, I gotta go up and give Mel a thanks for each of his posted pics.
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Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 1:03am |
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yeah John....I seen them truck wanna-be's parked there! looks like they backed into one of them already! should have kept going! lol
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 1:30pm |
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Oooooh, man, that looks nice. Fuel tank shines like a mirror. When is this big show that you are going to have this ready for? Maybe have to start a bus at the east coast and pick up forum members along the way, and end up there for a first hand look at the stuff. Darrel
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Getting there! Gonna feel strange, no rain for 4 days. At least the FD shouldn't get a forest fire call.
Shameless, didja happen to notice those pretty blue trucks in the background??? Look like Ferds to me!
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Posted: 10 Feb 2017 at 9:58pm |
Eric, I think it use about 4-1/2 gallons even though the pan is humungus. So here's where we our today. We tried to paint outside,it almost worked. David likes to make sure the "show parts" (things that stick out) should have the best paint job,so a lot of those parts are sanded or maybe sand blasted and primed first.
Some of this stuff we moved in and out several times do to rain today. The orange goes on pretty nice with primer on it. Hoping to get the fuel tank and battery boxes on tomorrow.
So I've been doing body shop work while the paint dries. So earlier I cut this stuff of of these "donor tractor " fenders with the air arc. I weld it up and grind it of till I can get it to fly by the painter guy. He'll do bondo, I don't, but I can weld and grind until it's smooth. (I don't do wood either). I kind of think this is a real mans body shop. (weld and grind) Trust me it will look good when were done. So the other thing was getting started putting the track guards on that came of of another "donor tractor" So that's today's progress. We're supposed to have no rain for 4 days. Davids going to sandblast and paint tomorrow. I'm off to coach the grandsons rec league BBall game and then go watch the granddaughters BBall game. Get AC restoration time from 1:00 to 5:00 then of to help cook 90 Rib Eye steaks for our local volunteer fire dept. annual "sweet heart dinner''.
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Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 1:44pm |
Amazing progress... even though the elements are giving you a hard time!!
How many gallons of oil does that 516 oil pan hold??
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