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jchance
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Location: Brisbane Points: 46 |
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 4:24am |
Hi,
does anyone know a cross reference for a seal for HD11 the Allis Chalmers part number is 620279 or 70620279. Original Part is $185 each and i need two of them, would much prefer an aftermarket version however i am unsure of the specs of the original part.
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30734 |
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Just went to part book to ID the seal. Appears by descriptor page 218 to be a two piece probably a steel ring with a packing ring of rawhide(most likely) or a o-ring. I seriously doubt after market would handle that.
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jchance
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Location: Brisbane Points: 46 |
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after market with the same specs is what im chasing
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30734 |
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That is what I meant in last post, never seen a packing if it is by aftermarket save hydraulic cylinders. You may want to take the remnant pieces to a hydraulics shop to have made as not many if any still make multi-piece rawhide seals save by hand.
Allis final drive seals are as rare and odd. Are a mix of two steel washers with neoprene rubber fibrous donut between with springs embedded. Your 11 has these and they are not available by anyone else either. |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30734 |
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To add, it most likely have been a weeping seal to lubricate the outer bearing on the clutch shaft support bearing. To put a full hard seal in there may doom the bearing to failure.
Edited by DMiller - 15 Jan 2017 at 9:18am |
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Acdiesel
Orange Level Joined: 15 Jun 2012 Location: Rochester Ohio Points: 2545 |
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looks like it changes to a 17277
also looks like it might not be available. you can check with. Applied Industrial Technologies good luck
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jchance
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Location: Brisbane Points: 46 |
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thanks for the info, are you able to let me know where you came up with the cross reference of 17277 ?
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CAL(KS)
Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3786 |
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the 17277 crosses to this national #. does not mean it is correct application, I have no idea. It is a chicago rawhide to National #
skf # crosses to same
Edited by CAL(KS) - 16 Jan 2017 at 7:37am |
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Acdiesel
Orange Level Joined: 15 Jun 2012 Location: Rochester Ohio Points: 2545 |
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I HAVE CROSSED AC NUMBERS TO NEW SEALS AND MOST OF THE TIME HAVE TO DOUBLE THEM UP BECAUSE THERE NOT THE SAME THICKNESS AS THE ORGINAL.
DAN I.D 1.75'' O.D 2.378 WIDTH .25''
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jchance
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Location: Brisbane Points: 46 |
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i contacted minnpar and they gave me the following specs for part number 70620279
OD is 2.56 Width .188 ID 2.167 |
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gemdozer
Orange Level Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Points: 970 |
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These seals ar for oil cluch shaft
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30734 |
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Hector, is this a true seal or is it a gland as in a hydraulic cylinder made of rawhide?
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gemdozer
Orange Level Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Points: 970 |
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Yes these 2 seals are true seal 620279 and are instaled on retainer cluch shaft rear bearing and these are in my manual HD11 PAGE 148
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