Questions about a 200

A " hydraulic leak in the middle of the tractor" means just that........it is leaking internally in the middle of the tractor and has to be split in two pieces to repair.

The guys acted as if it was a cover and was external plate leak that just needed a new gasket. I don't know 200s well, is there a external plate somewhere. I would split the tractor myself and fix the hi low eventually but that might be a year or 2. I don't need it, just thought it would be another nice tractor to have around, and I'll probably sit this one
out.

Thanks red bank, but the late evening photo is hiding some cosmetic issues.

Wilford, if you do your own work then that would be a nice tractor to own. However, if you can't get to it for awhile maybe you could find a better starting point. I would low ball him and wait it out. He may have it a year from now. Only mechanics or salvage guys are probably going to buy it.

$4000 for the 200 you described is too much.  Sounds like a pretty rough tractor.  I would don't even think I would go as high as 3000.

I bought a 200 years ago.  They wanted $6800 for it.  I test drove it, low power director slipped, high you could not engage slow it went in with a bang kind of all at once, tires not new but 50% injector lines all leaked at the pump, cab and all windows there but interior sound absorbing foam all torn up.  I offered him $3200.  

It has a notched plate  The plate wears and you replace it or build it up to get the lever to move far enough and to stay in place

Edited by Amos - 22 Jun 2018 at 7:02am

Amos has a good point you don't know until you have it home. And Allisbred is right price a newer 110hp tractor. The first 200 I bought I took two friends with me, I knew they wouldn't buy it and I enjoyed the look on their faces when I told the guy I would take it. When we got it home I told them my reasoning behind buying it and we fixed most of the problems in a weeks time. The second one I bought at an auction mainly for parts but after getting it home it turned out to be better than the first one. Another week spent with it and we have most of the problems fixed or at least enough that I was able to bale hay with it this year.

I have noticed the inconsistency though. TractorData lists it as 104HP but then they cite the Nebraska Test as 93.64 HP for PTO and 79.12 HP for Drawbar. Where did they come up with the 104? They do the same thing on the JD 4020 listing where they list it at 101 but then say it is 91 PTO and 76 for drawbar. Nebraska used the same test results for 190xt and the 200 too, so they didn't retest the 200.

Maybe RedBank soups his up. :-)

Seems "the old days", you saw a tractor HP rating and it was PTO HP.  You can't drive anything off the flywheel anyway, so made sense.  Then some mfg's started the advertising game, competitive tractor but higher HP!  Look into it, they're listing engine HP and the PTO HP would be similar.  For a while, even into the 90's and 00's, you'd see different ratings among different mfg's.  Then they'd throw kW in there for fun, even bigger number!  Tractor data is nice, they do a pretty good job of ordering the numbers for comparison amongst models and brands.  They may not be perfect, but they do a good job, and keep making edits where problems are detected.  IMO.

Yeah, tractorhouse can be a little sketchy.  If you're looking for 4wd, or not, better look both places as well!

Our 200 measures 116hp on the PT0, could say that the dyno is off, but same that measures 76hp on the 185 with a turned up pump. Not sure what a 200 left the dealer with, just know that it's strong. I've heard of several that were around 115hp in this area though. That's why I just considered them a 110hp tractor.

How bad do you want one? I haven't really run into any issues in parts availability yet. I would like to find a cab for one and a canopy mount for the other one.

Red bank, thanks for the pics. You are too far away for me to entertain a 200 purchase. [;)] I need to fix my 190 up first anyway.

I've covered this before, but here it is again. When the XT came out, it was tested at Neb. The inj pump was superseded several times and the early one was set to 63-65cc. That is where the 93.64hp rating came from in my opinion. Later ones went to 65-67, then the last ones with the advance pump 9GR were 70-72cc. The 200 is same setting as this. So in my simple mind, the 93.64 hp and 65cc pump spec would indicate the later was 10% higher fuel delivery, so the hp should be in the 103-105 area. The 7000 pump spec is 65-68cc and rated to 106 hp. 7010 & 8010 are 67-71cc, same 106hp, but the larger chassis could have required a touch more fuel. 7020 is 79-83cc, so 15% more fuel, but gets about 17% more power, which the innercooler helps support the added fuel. My experience has proven for every 1 percent of fuel increase, you get 1 to 1.5 pto hp, on turbo diesel farm tractors, to a point. Obviously you get in to pulling situations, it takes a bunch of supporting engine work to support the added fuel. Some of the ones I build are well over 400% on fuel delivery. Odd thing is the 7020 is 123 hp with turbo & innercooled 301, and the 210 is 122 hp, but with the 426 straight turbo engine fuel spec is only 71-75cc. So with all this info, I always consider a 200 to be just over 100 pto hp right out of the gate. I know many will say the dyno is off lol!