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Steve allis dozer 
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Posted: 09 Apr 2016 at 8:53am |
Hi ,does anyone know where i can buy the ID plate that goes on the side of the allis 262 diesel engine block ,are these available anywhere ? many thanks steve
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LeonR2013
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Posted: 09 Apr 2016 at 9:30am |
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Steve get one of the mags. that feature restored cars. In there you should be able to find a company that does reproduction tags. I,ve seen them on cars at car shows and they look perfect. In fact you should have a car show coming up soon close to you. Talk to one of the guys there. Prolly the first one you talk to will help you. Leon R Cmo
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DrAllis
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Posted: 09 Apr 2016 at 5:06pm |
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Never seen an ID plate on that series of engine in a tractor.
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Posted: 09 Apr 2016 at 7:22pm |
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In the 70's every engine that was made in the Harvey engine plant had a I D plate attached to it with 4 rivets.
Stamped on it was the engine series, serial number and catalog number.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 09 Apr 2016 at 7:26pm |
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I remember seeing those tags on the G-262 in C-2 and early model F Gleaner combines, so 1966 and up. I just don't remember any D-19 tractor engine G-262 and D-262 ever having any of those tags and they were done by early 1964.
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Posted: 09 Apr 2016 at 9:51pm |
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No tag of any sort on my 262D, but the 301 has the nameplate with model and serial number.
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Posted: 09 Apr 2016 at 10:33pm |
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Seen the tag on an F Gleaner but really not been around the tractors
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Steve allis dozer
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Posted: 10 Apr 2016 at 2:24am |
OK thanks for the info , mine is in an m65 grader it has six small holes where it looks like a tag has been so just thought i would try and get a new one i will try and load some pics
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Posted: 10 Apr 2016 at 6:42am |
 DrAllis wrote:
I remember seeing those tags on the G-262 in C-2 and early model F Gleaner combines, so 1966 and up. I just don't remember any D-19 tractor engine G-262 and D-262 ever having any of those tags and they were done by early 1964. |
Here's a question, what if a D17D owner buys a new engine for his tractor from an AC dealer, would a new engine have a tag like that?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 10 Apr 2016 at 6:58am |
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Maybe, if it was 1964 and newer build date? Like I say, I don't remember ever seeing a tag on a D-19 gas or diesel and I was around two Series 4 D-17 diesels in the late 70's and can't say I remember a tag on them either.
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Posted: 10 Apr 2016 at 1:33pm |
Steve allis dozer wrote:
OK thanks for the info , mine is in an m65 grader it has six small holes where it looks like a tag has been so just thought i would try and get a new one i will try and load some pics
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Please post a picture of that area on the block. If it's what I think it is, that's where the factory (Harvey engine plant) would install the "Options" metal stamped tag. When an engine was built for a customer other than AC it would go over to department 76 (commercial products) for a build as per customer order. What was added to the engine wether it be clutches, alternators, sheet metal, radiators, starters, ect. The catalog number for each options group was stamped onto a metal plate and attached to the block with rivets. That "tag" was about 1 1/2" tall and about 8" in length.
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Posted: 10 Apr 2016 at 5:09pm |
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I have 1of the last series 4 diesels made and there is no brass plate on the block.
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Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 5:03am |
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Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 9:29am |
That is the pad where the Harvey engine plant would attach the options plate when the engine was built for a customer other than Allis Chalmers.
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