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    Posted: 07 Dec 2015 at 3:15pm
I recently have the idea of repowering a WC with some sort of oddball powerplant. Have any of you seen or done a repower on a W-series tractor? If so, please share some pictures and knowledge. I am interested in seeing anything from 2 stroke Detroits to I-6 and V8 engines.
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I have seen WD45's repowered with the gas straight six equivalent of the WD45 diesel engine; think they said they came in combines. Wonder if one would fit in a WC?
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I had one with an Oliver 70 engine in it.---bought it for junk.--also have heard of Chevy 235 six  cyls. being used in them!----none of them were ever intended for serious use! thanks; ac fleet
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I spoke with a guy at our local show whose neighbor allegedly put a 433T in a WD, I've been intrigued ever since but haven't heard of anyone else doing it. Would think it would be a nice fit size wise but a fair amount of fabrication.


Edited by Bill_MN - 07 Dec 2015 at 4:28pm
1951 WD #78283, 1918 Case 28x50 Thresher #76738, Case Centennial B 2x16 Plow
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Here is one I saw at Hutchinson last summer.
Ray W.









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some1 had one with a 3 cyl Detroit once on here.. iv got a 453 Detroit with a turbo in a 2 ton gmc truck guna find maybe a 50-53 gmc pickup and swap it over
2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw
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A WC at an auction a couple years ago had a V6 Buick engine.  Did a real nice job and it even had new rear tires.  Went for $500!
D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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I have a 80 horse 4 cylinder cummins turbo diesel i"d love to put in one.
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There is a WD45 around here that has a Chrysler slant six in it.
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Hello R W    How about a Genuine Allis Chalmers 2 cyl WC engine like the one in my WC!
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Originally posted by AC puller AC puller wrote:

I have a 80 horse 4 cylinder cummins turbo diesel i"d love to put in one.

 also got a 4bt cummins brand new never cranked lol dont know what to do with it either 
2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw
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  your w-engine is listed in the parts manual--like allen says  had one isold to fred time to wake up boys  my 2 cents havvve fred pa.    show you a pic
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Originally posted by Allen Dilg Allen Dilg wrote:

Hello R W    How about a Genuine Allis Chalmers 2 cyl WC engine like the one in my WC!
I've seen one of those engines in person. Neat and definitely oddball, but I'm looking for a little more power and noise!
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bt4 cummins would make a nice tractor for general work but would like to put a straight 8 hudson in an unstyled
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Originally posted by HudCo HudCo wrote:

bt4 cummins would make a nice tractor for general work but would like to put a straight 8 hudson in an unstyled
I know a guy with several straight 8 Hudsons. Be interesting to see one put in a WC.
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HEY RAYw,,,,hMMMMM,,, that sure looks like a small block chevy in that WD45,,,,???
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I've got a Chevy 6 cyl in my WD45, Ray them plugs is easy to get at in that one ain't they?
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Why no a 426I?
2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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I think the one at Hutch was a Chevy motor. (Not positive).
Shameless, yeah those plugs would be easy to get to. But I think they used at least a couple shoe horns to get that motor in there. LOL
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yeah...I see the frame is cut on both sides. mine with the Chevy in it has the frame cut for just the starter, not a very big cut.
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I have a Mercruizer Marine 4 cylinder engine & Powerglide to put in my unstyled WC one of these days. Rated at 140HP, should move that along wit' no problem. Plans are to work on that when I retire in a couple of years. Been collecting parts for that project...
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I have a 433IT in a wd45. wasn't to much of a challenge.
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I just love the enginuity (SP)people use to create these fine, fine examples of their skills,,!! I especially like the alternator belt guard on the WD65 Diesel,,,just shows the guys pride in craftsmanship and individualism,,,,

OH,,,almost forgot,,,sure am glad THESE people post pics of their tractors,,,,unlike somebody I know,,,,, Ain't gvin up just yet,,,Ya know,,,,,

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There was the same one at the GOTO here this past fall.  It is the same as RLTool posted.  Had a Chevy 327 in it.



Then of course there's this one
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19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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SBC install very nice! I need to find someone who makes those adapter plates. My Marine engine is the same splay as a SBC. Anybody know of someone that makes those adapter plates?
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Excellent craftsmanship in those engine swaps! Thanks for the photos so far.
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