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Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 11:50am |
Hi All,
Looking for a unused sample of rivet # 915701 and 915702 used on the allcrop sickle and I assume other sickles. Have no idea of the dimensions or where they go on the sickle, but I need to find an aftermarket source for them as they are no longer avaialable. Best way to do it is to send the wholesaler one.
Thanks for any help.
Tom
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Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 11:59am |
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Tom the dimensions are listed in the Standard Parts Catalog. If someone else does not post them, then I will publish them here later tonight when I get back to PA.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 5:01pm |
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Tom the dimensions are listed in the Standard Parts Catalog. If someone else does not post them, then I will publish them here later tonight when I get back to PA. |
Glenn,
I dont have that catalog. Any specs you can provide would be appreciated.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 8:40pm |
915701 is a #6 countersink 1-7/16 inch long
915702 is #6 oval head and is 13/16 incn long
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Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 9:00pm |
Thanks!
Hopefully its not an oddball size and I can get easily...
Tom
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Posted: 17 Apr 2010 at 6:17am |
Avg number of rivits per lb:
915701 75
915702 112
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 7:30am |
Went online with these specs....doesnt look good.
The specs for rivets list all the rivets by dimension only...no such thing found as a "#6" rivet.
Will call a supplier to see if they can cross-ref.
Tom
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 7:47am |
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Tom....I have sections and there may be rivits also. Will check tonight....Dale
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 8:28am |
Dale,
If you can be sure they are for the two part numbers I listed that would be great as the other rivet sizes needed I have already sourced. Once I nail down all the correct sizes and their modern equivalants, I will put a document up on the website explaining it all for everyones dancing and listening pleasure.
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 9:08am |
Tom,
If I recall, all the section rivets are #6.
Glenn
Edited by GlenninPA - 19 Apr 2010 at 2:53pm
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 9:32am |
Glenn,
Could you confirm that? There are 6 different rivet numbers used on the 66 sickle:
915701
915702
911177
911176
910930
910931
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 9:37am |
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I will double check my book when I get back to PA tonight.
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 10:14am |
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Tom - If you can size them, I suggest you try McMaster-Carr. - AL
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 11:18am |
Just as I suspected,
I called Jay-Cee rivet, and they said "#6" doesnt mean anything to them, at least not anymore. So Im going to need a sample. I might be able to pound out the originals from the bar, but will need a metal shop to do it. I dont have the right facilites to extract a rivet undamaged, if thats even possible.
Gee youd think something like this wouldnt be such a hassle.
Edited by TomYaz - 19 Apr 2010 at 11:19am
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 2:45pm |
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Tom: Can't you just measure the hole and let the rivet company suggest the proper rivet?
Edited by Rawleigh - 19 Apr 2010 at 2:46pm
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 2:52pm |
Tom,
They are all "#6" rivets. Just measure one of the other rivets that you have.... The diameter and head will be the same, as long as they are from the same family.
Glenn
Edited by GlenninPA - 19 Apr 2010 at 2:53pm
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 3:44pm |
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I thought all section rivets were the same diameter since they were mostly standardized to 3 or 4" sections. Shoup shows them as 0.211" diameter. Valubilt says 1/4" diameter. John Day says 7/32" diameter. http://www.johnday.com/customer/jodaco/downloads/catalogfiles/DayBook%20catalog/1-Farm%20Equipment%20(1-87).pdf which is close to 7/32". Measure the holes they go in. The rivet needs a couple to 5 thousandths clearance. McMaster-Carr says a #6 copper rivet has a 0.228" shank. But they don't offer any steel rivets that size.
I suppose rivets for guard plates might be a different size yet.
Its clear that most of the internet sellers think they have mower section rivets but their rubber ruler has only marks every 1/8" so they don't know what they really have. I suspect those at Shoup if long enough or at valubilt are right even though they are marked differently.
Its sacralige to say it here, but try a Deere parts department. Farm equipment, not lawn mower. And look for a gray haired parts seller.
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 4:39pm |
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Call Sandy Lake Implement (888-252-0656) or other dealers. Some one may have them on the shelf or could do a dealer search.
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 5:00pm |
Ted,
Contacting SLI and a dealer search was the first thing I did. Was able to get three of the rivets.
Glenn,
All #6 may do the trick. Do you know if any of these numbers below are listed as "countersink":?
911176
910930 (same as 911177 per AGCO)
910931
If one of these is contersink then I think I will have enough info.
Thanks
Tom
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 5:58pm |
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Hey Tom, I was look'in at your site and noticed you have 1939-1969 as dates of production. The 60 came out in 1935 (Announced in late 1934) as the High Speed combine, was wondering if you knew this?
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 6:15pm |
Rfdeere wrote:
Hey Tom, I was look'in at your site and noticed you have 1939-1969 as dates of production. The 60 came out in 1935 (Announced in late 1934) as the High Speed combine, was wondering if you knew this? |
Yep I got a bad date...will fix.. Thanks...
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 8:25pm |
915701 CTSK 1-7/16
915702 OVAL HD 13/16
911177 NOW 910930
911176 CTSK 1-3/8
910930 OVAL 5/8
910931 CTSK 7/8
All are #6. I think this is a military reference for 3/16. (3/16x5/8=6-10)
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 8:38pm |
orangereborn wrote:
915701 CTSK 1-7/16
915702 OVAL HD 13/16
911177 NOW 910930
911176 CTSK 1-3/8
910930 OVAL 5/8
910931 CTSK 7/8
All are #6. I think this is a military reference for 3/16. (3/16x5/8=6-10) |
Thats good stuff....When I get the three sizes I ordered I should be able to get it all figured out. I will publish my results.
PS what does the "HD" for 915702 mean?
Thanks Guys for all your assistance!
Edited by TomYaz - 19 Apr 2010 at 8:42pm
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 8:41pm |
In my DA cross reference manual I found: #6=.203 So there goes my military theory. Should have quit when I was ahead....Dale
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 8:43pm |
orangereborn wrote:
In my DA cross reference manual I found: #6=.203 So there goes my military theory. Should have quit when I was ahead....Dale
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Hey O'man what do you think the "HD" means?
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 8:59pm |
911177 NOW 910930
911176 CTSK 1-3/8
910931 CTSK 7/8
All show up in the 60 Book.
All are #6. I think this is a military reference for 3/16. (3/16x5/8=6-10)
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 9:04pm |
Hey O'man what do you think the "HD" means? HAPPY DAY'S???
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Posted: 19 Apr 2010 at 9:24pm |
C'mon Tom you are making my life difficult! You got to spend some of that cash on some books man! Std Abbrv - HD - Head (as in Oval Head, etc.)
Print out this picture....
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010 at 5:43am |
GlenninPA wrote:
C'mon Tom you are making my life difficult! You got to spend some of that cash on some books man! Std Abbrv - HD - Head (as in Oval Head, etc.)
Print out this picture....
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Glenn,
Cash?, whats that? All my cash is in inventory!
Only question I had left was what "HD" means since Orange put a "Oval" and a "Oval HD" I thought there may be a difference...Would love to have that book...how much you want for it?
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010 at 6:03am |
My only copy, not for sale right now....
But if you are looking for one, it is titled:
Dealers Parts Catalog
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Numerical Index
for
STANDARD PARTS
Form D-10
It has all the hardware, fittings, bolts, nuts, screws, pins, rivets, etc in it. Comes in handy once in a while.......
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