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 Topic: WD45 226 ENGINE modified
Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 11:48am |
Fellows that modify the 226 engine to gain more hp. What changes are made?
If bore and stroke were revised what would the new bore and stroke be.
Edited by Moderator - 08 Mar 2013 at 2:59pm
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 2:41pm |
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That's messed up post.... Or it may just be my (I pod)
Edited by CTD03 - 08 Mar 2013 at 2:42pm
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 3:48pm |
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Using regular off the shelf parts a WC/WD engiine with 4" bore & 4" stroke is 201 cid. By increasing the bore to 4.125" you are now at 217 cid. Adding the 4.5" stroke WD45 crank to the larger bore now puts you right at 240 cid. Of course the stock WD45 or D17 is the 4" bore & 4.5" stroke combo at 226 cid. For a fairly mildly modified pulling engine I prefer the "Power Crater" pistons for a 170 or 175 that puts you around 7.75:1 compression with the 4.5" crank, but others wanting even more compression like to use WD flat top pistons with the 4.5" crank. Any of these combinations use the same rods, as everything from WC-D17 is the same length. Anything bigger than these combinations require custom sleeves and custom stroked cranks. Good Luck...Kip
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mlpankey
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 4:40pm |
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4 7/8 bore by 6 1/2 or more stroke.
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 6:37pm |
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Fred, ......KIp is right on , ignore the panky post. Gary
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 7:03pm |
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Kip has it right and this would be a fairly cheap way to get started and you can always do more later.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:22pm |
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You can vo kips way most of us do at first ifs just a waste of money causs if it gets in your blood you will want more and more and each time its more and more money
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Ihateillinoisnazis
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:27pm |
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You can vo kips way most of us do at first ifs just a waste of money causs if it gets in your blood you will want more and more and each time its more and more money |
One day after all the banning and you give us this much ammo to make fun of you with?
English. ...Type it!!!
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:37pm |
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Ask dr.allis how many cubic inches his is ask.brown how many cubic inches his is. Ask barney how many inches he ran in the antique class. Ask jr crum .Hayden Gibson. Mitch Pankey. Just ask them how many cubic inches they feel it takes to be competitive and go from there. Its only a matter of opinion.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:44pm |
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just ignore him guys...
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 9:40pm |
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from what i've read, as with most engine builds, you are only limited by your check book and class rules
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There are 3 ways to do job GOOD, FAST, CHEAP. YOU MAY CHOOSE 2. If its FAST & CHEAP it won't be GOOD, if it's GOOD & CHEAP it won't be FAST, and if its GOOD & FAST it won't be CHEAP!!!!
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 10:26pm |
Glockhead SWMI wrote:
just ignore him guys... |
Hopefully we can do that. I'd hate to see the forum pulled, the wrong people kicked off, and posts overrun with nonsense and bs.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 11:18pm |
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The claim of 4 7/8" bore is impossible, in fact I don't think anyone has done 4 3/4" let alone 4 7/8".
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 7:32am |
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Our biggest is 4 1/2 bore and 6 1/8 stroke. Used an engine out of an E combine. We had a guy in our old club that went bigger bore. I don't remember what but he said he split two blocks so now he has some sort of tie rods going from side to side. His name is Ira Banter he is brother of the Banter brothers team that pulled multiple engines on there modified early on when not allot of people did that.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 8:22am |
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Use of a deck plate might gain a little, but most Antique Clubs don't allow any deck plate spacers between block and cyl head.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 8:35am |
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Dr you want to see pictures of a 4 3/4 or a 4 7/8 .its possible and in the shop now. I have never lied to you and always appreciated you honesty and opinions when we have spoke in conversation
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 8:45am |
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 8:51am |
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Ps don karpells old pulling engine was the first 4 3/4 bore engine i knew of and we all know how many years it was on the pulling circuit. Yes everyone that we do engines for is in hope that their coompetitors ignore me.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 9:21am |
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Panky. Mind your own business you dont no what you are talking about
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 9:24am |
mlpankey wrote:
Ask dr.allis how many cubic inches his is ask.brown how many cubic inches his is. Ask barney how many inches he ran in the antique class. Ask jr crum .Hayden Gibson. Mitch Pankey. Just ask them how many cubic inches they feel it takes to be competitive and go from there. Its only a matter of opinion. |
I'll bite. So how many cubes does it take to be 50 feet behind in the classic class Mitch Pankey? How many cubes does it take to be 100 feet behind in the outlaw class Mitch Pankey? As far as never lied to us, that's a lie also.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 9:26am |
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310 cause everyone else was 400 inches or better 310 can win some but everything has to be perfect.this site crys for the truth but when given truth thwy can't handle it.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 9:28am |
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While some people follow pulling forums, others lead them. Take the advice of Dr. Allis or Wi50.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 9:34am |
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Rod you will be suprised what you learn when you start betting people that they arent 440 inches.i bet that there was no way dons wc running a step down box was 440 inches well when tbe head came off my money left it measured a stroke of 6.25 and 440 inches so you do the math on the bore size if you can. Four people where standing there when the bore was actuallyy measured as well.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 9:55am |
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And L Hud kicked you around with much less than 310. Maybe others are much better wrenches than you! Maybe you're a poor gambeling man getting took on your bets. If Wi sent you the flow numbers that'd be another 200 union bucks spent on your education.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 10:23am |
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4 3/4 is doable anything over that the sleeves are very thin. anything can put in. 4 7/8 plus a good size wall thickness is no room. Some guys dream big bore but if it does run its a dream . dons engine is 440 + .
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 11:09am |
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Panky you dont have any pictures because you wouldn't post and go back to school and take a spelling class
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 11:45am |
mlpankey wrote:
Dr you want to see pictures of a 4 3/4 or a 4 7/8 .its possible and in the shop now. I have never lied to you and always appreciated you honesty and opinions when we have spoke in conversation |
Yes, please post pictures. Also put a caliper or whatever measuring stick you use in the south to measure the bore diameter in place while taking the picture.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 11:58am |
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Hey planky how do you know so much about dons motor? Do you have it now? Where are located? Last known the motor went to ohio
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 12:10pm |
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Hey planky how do you know so much about dons motor? Do you have it now? Where are located? Last known the motor went to ohio |
LOL he's going to come up with a story about how he bought it "just to keep Don honest"
Insert another Plankey lie here... [ ]
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