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Curt IA 
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 8:43pm |
It was -8 here this morning and my 175D wouldn't start in 15 seconds after beening plugged in for 3hrs. I shot some ether thru the grille and she fired right up. Did the ether thru the grille work or was it just luck that she started. What's the best way to give her a shot of ether if needed, does not have the optional pre-filter.
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Dave King
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 8:51pm |
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It might have helped a wee bit, but at that cold, ether that far away usually doesn't help much. Putting it straight into the manifold helps the most, but runs the highest risk of ether-lock and engine damage. If a shot through the grill is all it takes, keep doing that.
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 8:55pm |
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Curt IA
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 9:00pm |
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Thanks for the replies, I have not had any trouble with the block heater, started right up yesterday. Maybe she was just mad cuz I left her outside last night instead of putting her back in the lean-to.
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AllisFreak MN
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 9:06pm |
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They do have feelings you know.
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JoeO(CMO)
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 9:16pm |
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It's OK, I took a shot of whiskey yesterday morning, seemed to help
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 9:28pm |
A mechanic once told me to never use ether on a Perkins....so when I have too I just give it a whiff the same way you did and it works! I figure as long as the valves don't rattle on startup you are ok, some people think a little is good, a lot is better LOL!
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DanWi
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 9:40pm |
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At -8 outside 3 hours might not be enough, probably should be 6-8 hours or all night, gives the block time to warm all the way thru.
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farmer_rob
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 10:00pm |
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my cummins in my 5120 case doesnt need to be pluged in at that temp nor does it need either. when i do plug it in its only for 20-30mins but ill let it warm up before heading out to blow snow
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Andrew(southernIL)
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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 11:00pm |
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Nebraska Cowman
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Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 6:35am |
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Yeah, warming a block when it's below zero is like thawing a turkey. you gotta start the day before.
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Dipstick In
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Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 6:52am |
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Retired from farming and only haul grain now with a 1991 Mack Ch w Bosch mechanical injection. Usually don't have to plug it in till it gets below 10-15 degrees. They are right though to recommend plugging an engine in the night begore you want to use them. Lots easier on everything. My Mack spun a bearing at 1,000,072 miles and if I had put rod and main bearings in before, that would not have happened! Oh well! That proved Rotella 15-40 oil to me! I typically DO NOT use ether as it can be very hard on components, but use WD-40 instead. Gives a lot softer start with the same effect!!!! Works for me. Old mechanic advice to me.
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Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 12:01pm |
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Newer diesels start much easier. If you can keep your 175 out of the wind when you have it plugged in I think you'll find that having it plugged in for an hour or two at these temps will work just fine. When the -20 hits it may have to be plugged in a little longer. That's how I do it with my 7050 here in MN.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 3:17pm |
Someone explain ether lock to me. My D17 would start easily when really cold with just a whiff through the port in the intake. Is it like "flooding" a gasoline engine? Todays ether I don't think is as potent as it used to be. It used to be that ether could be sprayed inside a tire and ignited that was being stubborn about seating the beads. We tried that about a month ago and the ether burned about like diesel dumped on the floor. All we managed to do was burn off the rubber nubbies on a new tire.
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Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 11:12pm |
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 11:18pm |
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Ether......aka "Rodbender in a can"
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