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    Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 7:57pm
This is probably a dumb question but I'm just wondering if anyone knows how allis came up with the names for their models. For example the model u was started in production in 1929 but then they made the model a in 1936. And the wc started production in 1933. So for there letter series how did they decide what to name each model?
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I would guess the U came from the United tractor and the UC is Model U Cultivator tractor. W comes after U for the WC? Pretty wild guess huh?
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Originally posted by MNLonnie MNLonnie wrote:

I would guess the U came from the United tractor and the UC is Model U Cultivator tractor. W comes after U for the WC? Pretty wild guess huh?
 
   Would it not be a VC then ?
 
   And the E came before the A, B, and C.
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and d comes after c  soo wd and same tractor with different engine with 45 hp so wd45 but it is all a guess
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Don't forget the Gleaner combines. They read like alphabet soup.PT, A, R, NR, E, F, J, H, T, S, and P-80. Then A/R/B, T, C, E, F, G, K, M, L, N, R, C, A, and now S. Did I forget any? 
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E III.  Wait a minute, what happened to E II???
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Originally posted by dustinmo dustinmo wrote:

and d comes after c  soo wd and same tractor with different engine with 45 hp so wd45 but it is all a guess

The WD45 was never rated or tested at 45 HP.

Allis Chalmers WD45 - tests

Allis Chalmers WD45 tractor photo I&T Manual: Allis-Chalmers B, C, CA, G, RC, WC, WD, WD45, WF
I&T Shop Manual
1953 - 1957
more Allis Chalmers WD45 specifications...




 

Nebraska Tractor Test 499:

Test Date:July 29 - August 10, 1953
Type:Gasoline 4-speed 2WD
Belt power (max):43.21 hp [32.2 kW]
Belt fuel use (max):3.8 gal/hour [14.4 l/hour]
Drawbar power (max):37.8 hp [28.2 kW]
Drawbar pull (max):5,441 lbs [2468 kg]
Max pull gear:1
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   The 45 is 45 engine HP. 43.21 is the belt HP.
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The 45 stands for 4.5 inch stroke.
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Like my teacher said I before E except after C never made sense so I never questioned it, I guess it works out haha
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Maybe they had a dartboard with the letters on it?
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