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cjammer530 
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Location: Superior, MT
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Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 9:05am |
Hey guys,
It has been along time since I have posted here. Glad to be back. We just bought a 190 XT 1966 model with 5000 hours on it. Real clean tractor all there. I call my local dealer in Manhatten, MT to inquire about the relieability of the tractor and was told it had a weak differential (rear end) LOL. Any information about this model would greatly be appreciated.
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Chuck 0 Western Montana
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sandylakeimplement
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Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:18pm |
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The 1st 190s had a 2 pinion dif that did prove to be a weak point. They were campaigned by AC and were all to be upgraded to the 4 pinion differential but we do see an occasional one that slid by even to this day. Yours is most likely the 4 pinion style which was plenty strong. Great tractor, don't shift the trans gears while rolling (use the Power Director clutch instead) or it will eventually start jumping out of gear. Bill
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DSeries4
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Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 9:51pm |
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Rats! I think mine still has the 2 pinion diff!
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 9:59pm |
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Hey Chuck it has been a long time! Welcome to the 190 club!
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 10:17pm |
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Isn't there a way to tell by the rear axle diameter if it has the upgrades or not? Mike
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 10:24pm |
Mike I'm not sure about updates, but I think the larger factory axles looked like mine. Notice the "humps" on the end of the axle housings.....I assume they were needed for larger bearing for larger axles.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 09 Apr 2011 at 6:30am |
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Small axles (2 3/4") or big axles (3 1/4") makes no difference. Before serial number 23000 it could have a 2 pinion (factory) or an added four pinion differential. Effective 23001 and up are all four pinion (Series 3).
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wayne3
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Posted: 10 Apr 2011 at 7:25am |
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My 190xt gas has the bigger axles. What size plow ,model, recommended? If you had smaller axles, what plow would a person use? Should a person not plow?
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pdub
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Posted: 10 Apr 2011 at 8:33am |
I know you have been asked a thouand times but how hard and expensive is it to replace third in a 190xt
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pdub
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Posted: 10 Apr 2011 at 8:35am |
how hARD and expensive to replace third gear
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DrAllis
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Posted: 10 Apr 2011 at 8:52am |
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Replacement of 3rd gear and coupler and collar requires COMPLETE teardown of the rearend of the tractor including removal of rear wheels and axles. A shop equipped to work with the spltting stands, fluid filled tires, jacking up the platform/cab, etc would say it's probably a 3 day (24 hrs) job.
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