190 XT
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Topic: 190 XT
Posted By: cjammer530
Subject: 190 XT
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 9:05am
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Hey guys,
It has been along time since I have posted here. Glad to be back. We just bought a 190 XT 1966 model with 5000 hours on it. Real clean tractor all there. I call my local dealer in Manhatten, MT to inquire about the relieability of the tractor and was told it had a weak differential (rear end) LOL. Any information about this model would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks
Chuck 0 Western Montana
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Posted By: sandylakeimplement
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:18pm
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The 1st 190s had a 2 pinion dif that did prove to be a weak point. They were campaigned by AC and were all to be upgraded to the 4 pinion differential but we do see an occasional one that slid by even to this day. Yours is most likely the 4 pinion style which was plenty strong. Great tractor, don't shift the trans gears while rolling (use the Power Director clutch instead) or it will eventually start jumping out of gear. Bill ------------- Sandy Lake Implement Sandy Lake, PA 724-376-2489 www.sandylakeimp.com FIND US ON FACEBOOK |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 9:51pm
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Rats! I think mine still has the 2 pinion diff! ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 9:59pm
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Hey Chuck it has been a long time! Welcome to the 190 club! ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 10:17pm
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Isn't there a way to tell by the rear axle diameter if it has the upgrades or not? Mike
------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 10:24pm
Mike I'm not sure about updates, but I think the larger factory axles looked like mine. Notice the "humps" on the end of the axle housings.....I assume they were needed for larger bearing for larger axles.
 ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2011 at 6:30am
| Small axles (2 3/4") or big axles (3 1/4") makes no difference. Before serial number 23000 it could have a 2 pinion (factory) or an added four pinion differential. Effective 23001 and up are all four pinion (Series 3). |
Posted By: wayne3
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2011 at 7:25am
| My 190xt gas has the bigger axles. What size plow ,model, recommended? If you had smaller axles, what plow would a person use? Should a person not plow? |
Posted By: pdub
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2011 at 8:33am
| I know you have been asked a thouand times but how hard and expensive is it to replace third in a 190xt |
Posted By: pdub
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2011 at 8:35am
| how hARD and expensive to replace third gear |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2011 at 8:52am
| Replacement of 3rd gear and coupler and collar requires COMPLETE teardown of the rearend of the tractor including removal of rear wheels and axles. A shop equipped to work with the spltting stands, fluid filled tires, jacking up the platform/cab, etc would say it's probably a 3 day (24 hrs) job. |