This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


C starter

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
8fan View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 99
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 8fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: C starter
    Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 10:03am
   I have a Model C with a working starter. The cgarging system works no more, and I have taken the generator off. Ca n I put a 12 volt battery on just to start the tractor about once a week during the summer, or will it ruin the starter. It starts right up, so it wont be cranking much.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
GlenninPA View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ashley, PA
Points: 5054
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GlenninPA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 10:05am
It should be fine if you don't overdo it.
Back to Top
CTuckerNWIL View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: NW Illinois
Points: 22824
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CTuckerNWIL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 10:31am
My WD45 has worked for years with 12V on the starter. Just give a couple minutes cooling time for every 5 seconds of cranking.
http://www.ae-ta.com
Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
Back to Top
Dakota Dave View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: ND
Points: 3962
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dakota Dave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 10:59am
I've had a 12 volt system on my C for 25 years. the started is still original.  Just don't crank till smoke comes out and you'll be fine. If it don't start in 15 seconds of cranking stop and let it cool down. Delco starters used on aircraft actually have a published cool down requirement. after 10 seconds wait 30 seconds. after a second 10 seconds wait 10 minutes after a third 10 seconds wait 30 minutes and contact a mechnic.

Edited by Dakota Dave - 31 Mar 2011 at 11:02am
Back to Top
8fan View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 99
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 8fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 11:10am
Thanks guys. 1 last question. When hooking up the 12 volt battery, do I ground the positive, just like the 6 volt battery? Or, hook the positive to the starter?
Again, thanks for the answer.
Back to Top
wbecker View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 29 Oct 2009
Location: STL
Points: 837
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wbecker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 2:33pm
The starter does not care if you use + or - ground, it will crank the same either way.
Bill B
Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152
Back to Top
jaybmiller View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Greensville,Ont
Points: 23734
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaybmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 3:08pm
Consider going negative ground, just like cars and trucks. that way you can easily add a 12V alternator, later.I put a 'newer' CS130(mid 90s?) series on my D-14. It's smaller in diameter than the older style ones(80s).Has an oval shaped connector for field and idiot light wires as opposed to the 2 prong job of the old stuff.
Also if you have to boost it, you don't have to worry about sparks flying.
 
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
Back to Top
Chalmersbob View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Points: 2122
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chalmersbob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 8:38pm
You don't have to change to 12 volts if the 6 volt battery works for starting your tractor. I have 2 tractors, 1 with battery ignition, that I run 6 volt batteries and the genny doesn't charge. I just charge then about twice a year. The one with battery ignition ios my mowing tractor and gets used a lot. Bob
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.063 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum