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    Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 12:54pm
This modified G (G2256) with the [homebuilt?] loader is for sale at Deike Implement of Waverly, Iowa.  Looks like this dealer has quite a fleet of G's - I didn't realize the G was that popular in Iowa.
 
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Iv never seen one of those before but it would shure turn short. And It is very cool!
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My dad bought one like that years ago, and used it for a parts tractor.  Same loader and everything.  Wondering if a company was converting these into short tractors or something?
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I dunno - that just looks.......disturbing somehow.  Seems like you could put a pretty serious load on the frame / axles if you weren't careful.
 
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precursor to the 'bobcat' !
small, nimble,easy to use....
Once again Aliis-Chalmers was ahead of it's time !!
 
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Now that's an interesting fact - how far would you folks be from Waverly, Iowa?
 
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Originally posted by HagerAC HagerAC wrote:

My dad bought one like that years ago, and used it for a parts tractor.  Same loader and everything.  Wondering if a company was converting these into short tractors or something?
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I seem to remember a story about short G's with loaders being used to unload box cars back in the day, but don't quote me on that.
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It also has a shortened wheel base, must be a fantastic turning radius.
The problem with loaders on these, and the B's is the steering gear ( same unit) is the weak point and will not take the abuse of a loader.
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Scott, loader looks like a Midwest with the arms shortened, which would be correct.
So.....ya gonna buy it??
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I wonder if those G's were used by the nestle company in Waverly for unloading rail cars way back when.
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Scott I am not sure how far we are mileage wise, but we are about an hour north of the Iowa border.  Just by looking at a map I would say it would be around a 2 hour trip give or take.  This is some interesting info on these tractors, be nice to know what they were used for.  There are remains of ours still sitting in the graveyard along with the loader.
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Joe,
 
Ha!  No, I just thought it was interesting.
 
I was also surprised to see all those G's lined up at this dealer's stable.  I don't think of small farms - the kind the G was designed for - when I think of Iowa.  Iowa's the only state in the Union I haven't been to so maybe my perception is way off.
 
I'm glad I posted this as it appears that there were more than one of these short wheelbase Loader G's - maybe somebody eventually will raise their hand and explain the story on this tractor.
 
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Originally posted by JoeM(GA) JoeM(GA) wrote:

Scott, loader looks like a Midwest with the arms shortened, which would be correct.
So.....ya gonna buy it??


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Not that far away from Waverly...  Interesting.
 
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Originally posted by HagerAC HagerAC wrote:

Scott I am not sure how far we are mileage wise, but we are about an hour north of the Iowa border.  Just by looking at a map I would say it would be around a 2 hour trip give or take.  This is some interesting info on these tractors, be nice to know what they were used for.  There are remains of ours still sitting in the graveyard along with the loader.
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Scott, thanks for posting the photos.  This loader was mfged by Midwest (initially located in Maquoketa, Ia, then relocated to Clinton, Ia).  The initial application was unloading bulk fertilizer from railroad boxcars (as David mentioned); and the immediate market was eastern Iowa. Midwest developed the design (which included strengthening of the frame (Creek mentioned), did the manfacturing and much of the marketing (they had a Sales Mgr). Shortening the G approx 2' improved its maneuverablity.  The unit has live hydraulics (pump is driven be an external pulley secured to the motor crankshaft). My G has lifted a known 400# stone.  The above is from several conversations with the fellow who was Midwests plant mgr in the '50s.  I also visited with him after the Marshalltown, IA G.O.O. in July 1998; he was 86 then.  Herb 
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Herb,
 
That's great!  Thanks for sharing the story on that tractor/loader!  Any idea how many of these may have been built?
 
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Nestle would've been a likely user, but these little loaders, as well as those used on garden tractors (Kwik-Way, Johnson, Danuser, etc) were popular for cleaning out the aisles of dairy barns- they had muscle to lift heavy manure, and maneuverability... and the ability to fit through doorways that full-sized tractors could never do.

Early skid steers eventually replaced little loaders, however, once skidders went to ROPS, most old-style dairy barns became off limits, as visibility was hindered enough so that the skidder operator was highly likely to back into a post.  With dairy operations dropping off, and new dairy-handling methods being built, the need fell away... but a few of us still make good use of 'em.  I've got a full-hydraulic Johnson Workhorse 20 on my IH Cub Cadet, fabricated a seriously heavy-duty front axle with hydraulic power steering, and if I were cleaning out a dairy barn, I'd take it over a skid-steer any day of the week.

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Here's the last image in the advertisement.  It gives a view of the rear of the G.
 
Here's a link to the advertisement.
 
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Scott; the old plant mgr did not remember production numbers and would not make an estimate.  I am going to guess somewhere between 200 and 400.  I have seen them in PA, OH, IA, IL, KS, GA. 
At $3750, that unit at Dieke may be there for a while.
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Herb now you also know of one in MN.  I am not sure where my dad located ours, but it may be worth fixing up, but we used the transmission out of it along with some other parts for our standard G.
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Originally posted by Herb(GA) Herb(GA) wrote:

Scott; the old plant mgr did not remember production numbers and would not make an estimate.  I am going to guess somewhere between 200 and 400.  I have seen them in PA, OH, IA, IL, KS, GA. 
At $3750, that unit at Dieke may be there for a while.
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Herb,
 
Just so I'm clear on this...
 
When you state "between 200 and 400" are you referring to the loader like you have or like the tractor/loader combination that is for sale?
 
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Scott,  Thanks so much for posting.  That is the first picture I have seen of that applicaiton for a G. 
Herb,  Thanks for your complete explanation of their use. 
You know, it just goes to show how adapatable the G was.  We used them mostly for cultivating in MD and changed the configuration a lot.  However, this goes even beyond what we did.
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Originally posted by HagerAC HagerAC wrote:

Herb now you also know of one in MN.  I am not sure where my dad located ours, but it may be worth fixing up, but we used the transmission out of it along with some other parts for our standard G.

The transmission is the same one thats in the B & C.

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