Another Mutant Model G
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Topic: Another Mutant Model G
Posted By: Scott(GA)
Subject: Another Mutant Model G
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 12:54pm
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This modified G (G2256) with the [homebuilt?] loader is for sale at Deike Implement of Waverly, Iowa. Looks like this dealer has quite a fleet of G's - I didn't realize the G was that popular in Iowa.
Scott
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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 1:15pm
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Iv never seen one of those before but it would shure turn short. And It is very cool! ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 1:46pm
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My dad bought one like that years ago, and used it for a parts tractor. Same loader and everything. Wondering if a company was converting these into short tractors or something?
------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 2:04pm
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I dunno - that just looks.......disturbing somehow. Seems like you could put a pretty serious load on the frame / axles if you weren't careful.
Creek
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 2:48pm
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precursor to the 'bobcat' !
small, nimble,easy to use....
Once again Aliis-Chalmers was ahead of it's time !!
------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Scott(GA)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 4:51pm
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Now that's an interesting fact - how far would you folks be from Waverly, Iowa?
Best regards,
Scott
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HagerAC wrote:Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 4:59pm
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I seem to remember a story about short G's with loaders being used to unload box cars back in the day, but don't quote me on that. ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: wbecker
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 5:01pm
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It also has a shortened wheel base, must be a fantastic turning radius.
The problem with loaders on these, and the B's is the steering gear ( same unit) is the weak point and will not take the abuse of a loader. ------------- Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152 |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 8:00pm
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Scott, loader looks like a Midwest with the arms shortened, which would be correct. So.....ya gonna buy it?? ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: acd17toy
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 8:25pm
| I wonder if those G's were used by the nestle company in Waverly for unloading rail cars way back when. |
Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 8:49pm
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Scott I am not sure how far we are mileage wise, but we are about an hour north of the Iowa border. Just by looking at a map I would say it would be around a 2 hour trip give or take. This is some interesting info on these tractors, be nice to know what they were used for. There are remains of ours still sitting in the graveyard along with the loader.
------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: Scott(GA)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 9:29pm
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Joe,
Ha! No, I just thought it was interesting.
I was also surprised to see all those G's lined up at this dealer's stable. I don't think of small farms - the kind the G was designed for - when I think of Iowa. Iowa's the only state in the Union I haven't been to so maybe my perception is way off.
I'm glad I posted this as it appears that there were more than one of these short wheelbase Loader G's - maybe somebody eventually will raise their hand and explain the story on this tractor.
Best regards,
Scott
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Posted By: Scott(GA)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 9:39pm
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Not that far away from Waverly... Interesting.
Scott
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Posted By: Herb(GA)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 9:43pm
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Scott, thanks for posting the photos. This loader was mfged by Midwest (initially located in Maquoketa, Ia, then relocated to Clinton, Ia). The initial application was unloading bulk fertilizer from railroad boxcars (as David mentioned); and the immediate market was eastern Iowa. Midwest developed the design (which included strengthening of the frame (Creek mentioned), did the manfacturing and much of the marketing (they had a Sales Mgr). Shortening the G approx 2' improved its maneuverablity. The unit has live hydraulics (pump is driven be an external pulley secured to the motor crankshaft). My G has lifted a known 400# stone. The above is from several conversations with the fellow who was Midwests plant mgr in the '50s. I also visited with him after the Marshalltown, IA G.O.O. in July 1998; he was 86 then. Herb
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Posted By: Scott(GA)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 9:47pm
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Herb,
That's great! Thanks for sharing the story on that tractor/loader! Any idea how many of these may have been built?
Best regards,
Scott
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 9:56pm
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Nestle would've been a likely user, but these little loaders, as well as those used on garden tractors (Kwik-Way, Johnson, Danuser, etc) were popular for cleaning out the aisles of dairy barns- they had muscle to lift heavy manure, and maneuverability... and the ability to fit through doorways that full-sized tractors could never do. Early skid steers eventually replaced little loaders, however, once skidders went to ROPS, most old-style dairy barns became off limits, as visibility was hindered enough so that the skidder operator was highly likely to back into a post. With dairy operations dropping off, and new dairy-handling methods being built, the need fell away... but a few of us still make good use of 'em. I've got a full-hydraulic Johnson Workhorse 20 on my IH Cub Cadet, fabricated a seriously heavy-duty front axle with hydraulic power steering, and if I were cleaning out a dairy barn, I'd take it over a skid-steer any day of the week. (oh, and I'm from Iowa, and I approve this message) |
Posted By: Scott(GA)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 9:58pm
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Here's the last image in the advertisement. It gives a view of the rear of the G.
Here's a link to the http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6162735& - advertisement .
Scott
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Posted By: Herb(GA)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 10:08pm
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Scott; the old plant mgr did not remember production numbers and would not make an estimate. I am going to guess somewhere between 200 and 400. I have seen them in PA, OH, IA, IL, KS, GA.
At $3750, that unit at Dieke may be there for a while.
Regards, HerbJr.
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Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 10:13pm
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Herb now you also know of one in MN. I am not sure where my dad located ours, but it may be worth fixing up, but we used the transmission out of it along with some other parts for our standard G.
------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: Scott(GA)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 10:22pm
Herb,
Just so I'm clear on this...
When you state "between 200 and 400" are you referring to the loader like you have or like the tractor/loader combination that is for sale?
Best regards,
Scott
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Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 1:01am
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Scott, Thanks so much for posting. That is the first picture I have seen of that applicaiton for a G.
Herb, Thanks for your complete explanation of their use.
You know, it just goes to show how adapatable the G was. We used them mostly for cultivating in MD and changed the configuration a lot. However, this goes even beyond what we did.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2011 at 6:41am
The transmission is the same one thats in the B & C. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |