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Scott(GA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: PeachtreeCityGA Points: 407 |
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This modified G (G2256) with the [homebuilt?] loader is for sale at Deike Implement of Waverly, Iowa. Looks like this dealer has quite a fleet of G's - I didn't realize the G was that popular in Iowa.
Scott
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R.W ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 31 Dec 2010 Location: Swanton, OH Points: 2975 |
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Iv never seen one of those before but it would shure turn short. And It is very cool!
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HagerAC ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Location: SE MN Points: 1189 |
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My dad bought one like that years ago, and used it for a parts tractor. Same loader and everything. Wondering if a company was converting these into short tractors or something?
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Creek Jenkins ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Northern Minn Points: 812 |
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I dunno - that just looks.......disturbing somehow. Seems like you could put a pretty serious load on the frame / axles if you weren't careful.
Creek
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 23723 |
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precursor to the 'bobcat' !
small, nimble,easy to use....
Once again Aliis-Chalmers was ahead of it's time !!
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Scott(GA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: PeachtreeCityGA Points: 407 |
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Now that's an interesting fact - how far would you folks be from Waverly, Iowa?
Best regards,
Scott
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David Gibson (OH) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: Hollansburg, OH Points: 493 |
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I seem to remember a story about short G's with loaders being used to unload box cars back in the day, but don't quote me on that.
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wbecker ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Location: STL Points: 837 |
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It also has a shortened wheel base, must be a fantastic turning radius.
The problem with loaders on these, and the B's is the steering gear ( same unit) is the weak point and will not take the abuse of a loader.
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JoeM(GA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Cumming,GA Points: 4726 |
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Scott, loader looks like a Midwest with the arms shortened, which would be correct.
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acd17toy ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: USA Points: 705 |
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I wonder if those G's were used by the nestle company in Waverly for unloading rail cars way back when.
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HagerAC ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Location: SE MN Points: 1189 |
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Scott I am not sure how far we are mileage wise, but we are about an hour north of the Iowa border. Just by looking at a map I would say it would be around a 2 hour trip give or take. This is some interesting info on these tractors, be nice to know what they were used for. There are remains of ours still sitting in the graveyard along with the loader.
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Scott(GA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: PeachtreeCityGA Points: 407 |
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Joe,
Ha! No, I just thought it was interesting.
I was also surprised to see all those G's lined up at this dealer's stable. I don't think of small farms - the kind the G was designed for - when I think of Iowa. Iowa's the only state in the Union I haven't been to so maybe my perception is way off.
I'm glad I posted this as it appears that there were more than one of these short wheelbase Loader G's - maybe somebody eventually will raise their hand and explain the story on this tractor.
Best regards,
Scott
Edited by Scott(GA) - 21 Mar 2011 at 9:30pm |
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Scott(GA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: PeachtreeCityGA Points: 407 |
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Not that far away from Waverly... Interesting.
Scott
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Herb(GA) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: United States Points: 1039 |
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Scott, thanks for posting the photos. This loader was mfged by Midwest (initially located in Maquoketa, Ia, then relocated to Clinton, Ia). The initial application was unloading bulk fertilizer from railroad boxcars (as David mentioned); and the immediate market was eastern Iowa. Midwest developed the design (which included strengthening of the frame (Creek mentioned), did the manfacturing and much of the marketing (they had a Sales Mgr). Shortening the G approx 2' improved its maneuverablity. The unit has live hydraulics (pump is driven be an external pulley secured to the motor crankshaft). My G has lifted a known 400# stone. The above is from several conversations with the fellow who was Midwests plant mgr in the '50s. I also visited with him after the Marshalltown, IA G.O.O. in July 1998; he was 86 then. Herb
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Scott(GA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: PeachtreeCityGA Points: 407 |
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Herb,
That's great! Thanks for sharing the story on that tractor/loader! Any idea how many of these may have been built?
Best regards,
Scott
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DaveKamp ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5870 |
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Nestle would've been a likely user, but these little loaders, as well as those used on garden tractors (Kwik-Way, Johnson, Danuser, etc) were popular for cleaning out the aisles of dairy barns- they had muscle to lift heavy manure, and maneuverability... and the ability to fit through doorways that full-sized tractors could never do.
Early skid steers eventually replaced little loaders, however, once skidders went to ROPS, most old-style dairy barns became off limits, as visibility was hindered enough so that the skidder operator was highly likely to back into a post. With dairy operations dropping off, and new dairy-handling methods being built, the need fell away... but a few of us still make good use of 'em. I've got a full-hydraulic Johnson Workhorse 20 on my IH Cub Cadet, fabricated a seriously heavy-duty front axle with hydraulic power steering, and if I were cleaning out a dairy barn, I'd take it over a skid-steer any day of the week. (oh, and I'm from Iowa, and I approve this message) Edited by DaveKamp - 21 Mar 2011 at 9:56pm |
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Scott(GA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: PeachtreeCityGA Points: 407 |
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Here's the last image in the advertisement. It gives a view of the rear of the G.
Here's a link to the advertisement.
Scott
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Herb(GA) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: United States Points: 1039 |
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Scott; the old plant mgr did not remember production numbers and would not make an estimate. I am going to guess somewhere between 200 and 400. I have seen them in PA, OH, IA, IL, KS, GA.
At $3750, that unit at Dieke may be there for a while.
Regards, HerbJr.
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HagerAC ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Location: SE MN Points: 1189 |
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Herb now you also know of one in MN. I am not sure where my dad located ours, but it may be worth fixing up, but we used the transmission out of it along with some other parts for our standard G.
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Scott(GA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: PeachtreeCityGA Points: 407 |
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Herb,
Just so I'm clear on this...
When you state "between 200 and 400" are you referring to the loader like you have or like the tractor/loader combination that is for sale?
Best regards,
Scott
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Bill Long ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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Scott, Thanks so much for posting. That is the first picture I have seen of that applicaiton for a G.
Herb, Thanks for your complete explanation of their use.
You know, it just goes to show how adapatable the G was. We used them mostly for cultivating in MD and changed the configuration a lot. However, this goes even beyond what we did.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Dusty MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Charlotte, Mi Points: 5058 |
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The transmission is the same one thats in the B & C. Dusty
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