417 loader mounting help.

Hello. Im mounting the 415/17 loader to my series 4, D17. The right hand bracket that goes to axle hits the traction control linkage and rubs the hydraulic cylinder. I have a hard time seeing how I could get the ubolt around axle too. Can someone please post a picture of how theirs is bolted on. Thank you

Swap sides. U-bolt and angle iron are outside the fender mtg plate, not inside.

Dr. I swapped them out but they still won't clear the fender brackets.

Dr. Are the finder mounting points at different areas on the axle for the series 4 compared to series 1 thru 3?

Ok, i will move wheels out, but even then if i put bracket on the outside of fender the holes are off from bracket to loader

Leave the bolts loose on the tractor/loader side frames and pull the loader out to meet the holes. This isn't like a connecting rod cap inside an engine, precision machined. You have to use pry bars and lineup punches for assembly.

The manual only speaks for spacers for the D14. Im trying to get it somewhat mounted to axle between stuff going on at work. I will get pictures more in a min.

OK. If the D-14 needs them, the D-15-17 shouldn't.

Id measure between the uprights with the frames mounted to the front of the tractor. If that doesnt match the boom width you would know if you need spacers

Josh and Dr.

I had a look in the Allis Parts Catalog for the 400 and 500 Series Loaders.

Confirmed that the D-14, D-15, and D-17 all use the same Side Frames and Boom.

Josh has it right, the narrower D-14 requires the Spacers, 1 front and 2 rear, between the Side Frame and the Tractor Frame. Same for both sides.

Then had a look in the Allis TM-328 Operating Instructions and Parts Illustrations 400 and 500 Series Loaders.

On Page 10 is an unusual Picture.

Fig. 7 is tagged as 417 R/H Rear Frame Mount - 'U' bolt is inside the Fender

Fig. 9 is tagged as 517 R/H Rear Frame Mount - 'U' bolt is inside the Fender

Wouldn't the 517 have to be on a Ser.IV with the Live Hydraulics, like Josh's?

Gary

It not only hits the linkage but also the 3point cylinders. So it has to go on the outside of the fenders. I was hoping for a 500 series loader but for $350 for this 417 I couldn't pass it up.

Josh

As I understand it, you actually got more being a 400 Series.

The L/H Frame Mount of a 400 Series has the Hydraulic Oil contained inside the structure, along with the outlet at the bottom to feed the Front Mounted Pump, the return line fitting higher up, the Oil Fill Spout and Cap at the top.

Also connections for the Bucket tilt and Boom Lift Valves.

The 500 Series would not have any of this extra because of the Live Hydraulic along with a pair of Double Acting Hydraulic Control Valves as part of the Tractor.

Still can't figure out why the Ser.IV has the Traction Booster Set-up like yours.

Allis D Series Traction Booster System started in 1957 with the intro. of D-14 and D-17.

It had to be modified to suit the introduced 3 pt hitch, but still the same working principle.

Perhaps another Forum Member has a D-17 Ser.IV with a 400 or 500 Series Loader and could comment and / or provide pictures.

Gary

Gary, the D-17 IV has live hyd and the other D series don't.

Traction Booster linkage and the lift arm cylinders are unique to the D-17 IV, One-Seventy and 175 tractors.