8010 power steering

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   Greetings all,Hauling silage wagons with the 8010 this weekend, and started to have trouble steering.  Tractor wanted to drift to the left, and was slow/unresponsive to turn back to the right.  Eventually, I lost all steering to the right.  
Reading information on the forum here, someone had a similar problem with an 8030, and the likely culprit was the orbital steering motor at the end of the steering wheel.  I am guessing, that after 9000 hours, a seal has blown, or some orifice is plugged, not allowing flow to the right turn valve.  
I see both used and new motors for sale online (Dealer, TractorParts ASAP, etc).  I also see that there is a seal kit part number shown on the partsbook.  
If this is a seal issue, I can replace the seals for less than $100.  If this is a bigger problem, the motor looks to be about $700 after the core charge is returned.  

What do you all recommend?  Rebuilt, replace, or am I barking up the wrong tree of symptoms?  

Thank you
John

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Johnwilson_osf Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: Mount Bethel PA Points: 935	Post Options Post Reply Quote Johnwilson_osf Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 8010 power steering Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 6:32pm
	Greetings all, Hauling silage wagons with the 8010 this weekend, and started to have trouble steering. Tractor wanted to drift to the left, and was slow/unresponsive to turn back to the right. Eventually, I lost all steering to the right. Reading information on the forum here, someone had a similar problem with an 8030, and the likely culprit was the orbital steering motor at the end of the steering wheel. I am guessing, that after 9000 hours, a seal has blown, or some orifice is plugged, not allowing flow to the right turn valve. I see both used and new motors for sale online (Dealer, TractorParts ASAP, etc). I also see that there is a seal kit part number shown on the partsbook. If this is a seal issue, I can replace the seals for less than $100. If this is a bigger problem, the motor looks to be about $700 after the core charge is returned. What do you all recommend? Rebuilt, replace, or am I barking up the wrong tree of symptoms? Thank you John
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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20689	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 6:38pm
	Re-seal the steering cylinder first. I suppose the leaf springs inside the steering control valve could be broken but I've never seen that yet. The other poster has never responded back. Edited by DrAllis - 06 Oct 2024 at 6:39pm

Johnwilson_osf Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: Mount Bethel PA Points: 935	Post Options Post Reply Quote Johnwilson_osf Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Oct 2024 at 7:39am
	Dr. Allis, Thank you for the reply. I did see in the other post that you mentioned removing the hoses at the cylinder, and capping them. Then try to turn the steering wheel. If I can't turn the wheel, then it is the steering cylinder that is bad. I am looking through my hydraulic fittings to see if I have some caps for the lines, and I will test that. Thank you John
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injpumpEd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4932	Post Options Post Reply Quote injpumpEd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Oct 2024 at 9:49am
	Could a guy reverse the hoses on the cyl and see if the problem is still the same direction, thus pinpointing an internal cylinder leak vs a orbitrol issue? There's not really any seals inside the orbitrol , it's all sealed inside by metal precision fit.
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Johnwilson_osf Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: Mount Bethel PA Points: 935	Post Options Post Reply Quote Johnwilson_osf Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 6 hours 34 minutes ago at 7:53pm
	I apologize for the delay. It took me a while to get time to work on it, and lost track of time. I followed the instructions, and disconnected the hydraulic lines at the cylinder, and then plugged the lines. The steering wheel did not turn, so it was the cylinder. Got a seal set installed, and then re-installed the cylinder on the tractor. Everything is working again. Thank you for all your help. John
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