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Changing 6V to 12V |
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vansequipment
Bronze Level Joined: 26 May 2024 Location: Washington Stat Points: 5 |
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Posted: 26 May 2024 at 7:04pm |
I am doing a total engine rebuild and a restoration on a 1957 D-14, S/N 5242. I need to change the flywheel ring gear as it is badly worn and would like to convert to 12 volt as I have a 1959 D-14 that is 12v. My question is this: the current ring gear is 93 tooth and it looks like available new ring gears for 12 v are 116 t. Also I will need to replace the starter and generator system with 12 volt upgrades. It looks like from specs I have found the 116 t gear will fit on the flywheel. I have converted other tractors and older trucks to 12 v so I think I have the program down, just don't know if the ring gears will fit flywheel that had a 93 t on it. Anyone have any experience with this, or good advice? Thanks in advance.
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 80221 |
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read what you are buying.. the 6 volt ring gear goes with the 6 volt starter... 12 v gear goes with the 12 v starter... you can run either on 12 volts... but if you need EVERYTHING, get all 12v PARTS.
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vansequipment
Bronze Level Joined: 26 May 2024 Location: Washington Stat Points: 5 |
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Thanks, Steve. That's what I figured. Just wanted to check. I also think I will go with negative ground so I can use LED lights. Lots more light for way less amps. I've done that on other tractors.
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 80221 |
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https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/allis-chalmers-d14-starter-failure_topic179471.html
DIFFERENT TOOTH COUNT
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steve(ill)
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you might want to consider an alternator with internal reg... as compared to generator with voltage regulator
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22269 |
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yes, starter pinion gear needs to be changes as well.... I used Delco CS-130 series alternators on my 4 D-14s...no need to trim tin ! just use generator pulley on the alternator. I also used a 2 wire ,1/2" round light in the dash as the 'idiot' light. a 6 volt starter will have a brush shield or band on it, 12v is a 'solid' shell.
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vansequipment
Bronze Level Joined: 26 May 2024 Location: Washington Stat Points: 5 |
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Understood, I intend to get 12 v starter to match new ring gear.
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Gary
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5323 |
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Original set-up from the Factory: D-10, D-12, D-14 Early 6 Volt system had 10 tooth Bendix and 93 tooth Ring Gear. Later 12 Volt system had 9 tooth Bendix and 116 tooth Ring Gear. I get them from NAPA Gary |
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HudCo
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vans equipment where in washinton state are you located? just curious
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vansequipment
Bronze Level Joined: 26 May 2024 Location: Washington Stat Points: 5 |
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Arlington, north of Seattle about 50 miles
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7304 |
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Original 6 volt generator can be rewired for 12 volts, need a new 12 volt regulator as well.. I have several like that. Starter can stay 6 volt, just spins faster. But since you are changing the ring gear, you will need a starter that mates up to it.
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Steve in NJ
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11746 |
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I offer a complete 12V wiring system if interested. I also rebuild the Starter motors as well. Steve@B&B bb-customcircuits.com
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