Changing 6V to 12V
Printed From: Unofficial Allis
Category: Allis Chalmers
Forum Name: Farm Equipment
Forum Description: everything about Allis-Chalmers farm equipment
URL: https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=201511
Printed Date: 27 Sep 2024 at 2:40pm
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.10 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Changing 6V to 12V
Posted By: vansequipment
Subject: Changing 6V to 12V
Date Posted: 26 May 2024 at 7:04pm
|
I am doing a total engine rebuild and a restoration on a 1957 D-14, S/N 5242. I need to change the flywheel ring gear as it is badly worn and would like to convert to 12 volt as I have a 1959 D-14 that is 12v. My question is this: the current ring gear is 93 tooth and it looks like available new ring gears for 12 v are 116 t. Also I will need to replace the starter and generator system with 12 volt upgrades. It looks like from specs I have found the 116 t gear will fit on the flywheel. I have converted other tractors and older trucks to 12 v so I think I have the program down, just don't know if the ring gears will fit flywheel that had a 93 t on it. Anyone have any experience with this, or good advice? Thanks in advance.
|
Replies:
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 May 2024 at 7:06pm
read what you are buying.. the 6 volt ring gear goes with the 6 volt starter... 12 v gear goes with the 12 v starter... you can run either on 12 volts... but if you need EVERYTHING, get all 12v PARTS.
-------------
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
|
Posted By: vansequipment
Date Posted: 26 May 2024 at 7:12pm
|
Thanks, Steve. That's what I figured. Just wanted to check. I also think I will go with negative ground so I can use LED lights. Lots more light for way less amps. I've done that on other tractors.
|
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 May 2024 at 7:14pm
|
https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/allis-chalmers-d14-starter-failure_topic179471.html%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/allis-chalmers-d14-starter-failure_topic179471.html
DIFFERENT TOOTH COUNT
-------------
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
|
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 May 2024 at 7:16pm
you might want to consider an alternator with internal reg... as compared to generator with voltage regulator
-------------
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
|
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 May 2024 at 7:19pm
|
yes, starter pinion gear needs to be changes as well.... I used Delco CS-130 series alternators on my 4 D-14s...no need to trim tin ! just use generator pulley on the alternator. I also used a 2 wire ,1/2" round light in the dash as the 'idiot' light.
a 6 volt starter will have a brush shield or band on it, 12v is a 'solid' shell.
-------------
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
|
Posted By: vansequipment
Date Posted: 26 May 2024 at 7:54pm
|
Understood, I intend to get 12 v starter to match new ring gear.
|
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 26 May 2024 at 7:57pm
Original set-up from the Factory: D-10, D-12, D-14
Early 6 Volt system had 10 tooth Bendix and 93 tooth Ring Gear.
Later 12 Volt system had 9 tooth Bendix and 116 tooth Ring Gear.
I get them from NAPA
Gary
|
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 26 May 2024 at 10:38pm
|
vans equipment where in washinton state are you located? just curious
|
Posted By: vansequipment
Date Posted: 27 May 2024 at 12:16am
|
Arlington, north of Seattle about 50 miles
|
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 27 May 2024 at 3:37pm
Original 6 volt generator can be rewired for 12 volts, need a new 12 volt regulator as well.. I have several like that. Starter can stay 6 volt, just spins faster. But since you are changing the ring gear, you will need a starter that mates up to it.
-------------
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
|
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 27 May 2024 at 6:12pm
|
I offer a complete 12V wiring system if interested. I also rebuild the Starter motors as well. Steve@B&B bb-customcircuits.com
-------------
39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
|
|