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AC720Man
Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 4929 |
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Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 10:40pm |
Anyone else having issues getting parts for CCKB engines? I am trying to find a carb overhaul kit 1420371 and head gaskets 110-0892.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Charlie175
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6358 |
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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Charlie175
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6358 |
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Gasket 110-3181 replaces your old part #
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31199 |
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Has become a mess since are ALL IN at Cummins anymore. Can remember when Cummins shops sold machines, parts and pieces but ONAN was still mostly its own company.
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injpumpEd
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4920 |
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I just bought some tune up parts from the place charlie listed, and they appear to be genuine parts at wholesale prices. I have not taken the time to do the tuneup on my 720 yet. As for the carb, I bought the kohler one linked on here. Don't remember all the details but it was for a 25 or 27hp kohler 532 or?? I never did get out and snap a pic for robbie. lol!
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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AC720Man
Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 4929 |
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Ed, did you install it? If so how does it run?
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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AC720Man
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Thanks Charlie but that isn’t for mine. Bowl gasket is totally wrong, not sure about the remaining pats. I saw that last night, thanks for the link I will give them a call. After reading your post again Ed it appears you haven’t lol! Inquiring minds want to know! Lol
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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AC720Man
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Someone had a NOS carb which I was interested in.....until I saw the $850 price tag! Wow
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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AC720Man
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Ive got parts from them before after I went to the site. What’s up with companies not taking phone calls? Online ordering only. Poor customer support IMO.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Bird76Mojo
Silver Level Joined: 12 Mar 2015 Location: Illinois Points: 221 |
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Why not do the carb conversion on it? Much cheaper.
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AC720Man
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What carb are you referring to? If I could find a suitable carb I would be interested.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Bird76Mojo
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There's a pretty simple Kohler carb conversion that several people had done. They documented it on Facebook and it's probably on SimpleTractors as well.
Very minor modification to the inlet bell mouth to create a side air vent, using a Dremel tool. |
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Bird76Mojo
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5760 |
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The worst thing to ever happen to Onan, was Cummins. With respect to Onan support, they're nothing short of hideous.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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AC720Man
Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 4929 |
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I don’t have Facebook so I guess I will look on Simple tractors.
Sent Onan parts a message last evening asking about a carb rebuild kit. Haven’t heard a peep yet....great customer support I see. |
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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AC720Man
Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 4929 |
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Thanks Bird for posting that link. A little confused on the modification to the 2 areas in red. Not sure what he means by cut 2 locations back? Is that like grinding a portion of that area so The gasket doesn’t block it? Why not modify the bell horn so it doesn’t cover the holes? Maybe I’m miss understanding the modification.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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HudCo
Orange Level Joined: 29 Jan 2013 Location: Plymouth Utah Points: 3562 |
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i bought gaskets for my ccka when i changed over to the cckb manifold and carb from rocky mountain cummins in salt lake city also head gaskets and manifold gaskets for a p218 in a lincoln welder a month ago everything was in stock
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injpumpEd
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4920 |
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Yea, I put one of those carbs on last year, or maybe even 2 years ago. Like the other thread shared, you need to notch the carb a little bit so the bowl vents properly. It runs good on mine, but I did have to put a little spring I cobbled on it to keep it from surging bad. The top load jet screw is a huge bonus!
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Bird76Mojo
Silver Level Joined: 12 Mar 2015 Location: Illinois Points: 221 |
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Not having the main jet packing leak all the time would be a very nice feature..
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7342 |
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Give Sandy Lake a call |
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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AC720Man
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I talked to Brenda last week and the complete carb kit is $161. I am going to pull the heads off to clean and inspect the valves. I adjusted the valves last week. My timing is correct, have good spark. Will order the Kohlor carb and give it a shot. Tired of dealing with the Zenith and it’s difficult tuning of the main jet.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3751 |
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Give these guys a shot, got a kit for my 720 from them. About $50 at that time if memory serves.
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AC720Man
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I have not been able to locate a model number stamped on my original Zenith carb. Will need to do some research, it may be in my manual.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Orangeisgreat190
Bronze Level Joined: 07 Apr 2020 Location: Ohio Points: 50 |
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I just did seals on a cckb. I found gasket kit at isavetractors.com. You have to find link to Onan on left side.
I have also had great luck with Onan parts.com. Usually they have a huge selection of parts listed. You just have to look for your model on the pages of parts listed under topic. I hope this helps. Will
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AC720Man
Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 4929 |
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Ordered the carb for a K582 engine to give it a try. OnanParts.com is closed this week so I am going to try isavetractors.com to hopefully get some gaskets for the heads, intake, and exhaust since they have never been changed out.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Steve in NJ
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11830 |
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Wow! $161. bucks for a iddy biddy Carb kit? Homerun there! Nothin' against SLI but man how do you justify that?? Steve@B&B
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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AC720Man
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Ok fellas, I’ve printed the instructions for the carb modification. Maybe I’m missing something. Do I cut a slot in the carb in the marked picture locations towards the inside? If so how deep and wide? Maybe I’m missing part of the thread?
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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injpumpEd
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I think it just needs slightly notched so the bowl will vent to the inlet and air filter area.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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AC720Man
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Thanks Ed
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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