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Pictures from the Agco Tractor Plant in France

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    Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 11:08am

Guys-I am traveling for work here in France this week and with coming in one day early I thought it would be fun to go up to Beuvais and find the AGCO tractor plant.  After some driving around I found it.  Notice one of the pictures shows probably one of the last "orange" tractors off the assy line.  Enjoy!  Terry

 
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I just don't understand. If AGCO can build a red tractor, then a yellow one that has different sheet metal, different cab top, and fenders and different wheels, why not make all the parts the same and just paint different colors. It wouldn't cost as much to change the color as it does to have all the different pieces of trim.
 And the sign I notice has no orange on it.


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I didn't know they built Valtra in the same plant.  That is interesting.
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Charlie, that would be way too easy.......
Thanks for the pictures, nowaktj. Thought I spotted two orange units in one of the first pictures.


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Aww that's just a shame and really ticks me off. In a way i'm glad that they killed off the orange, it was nothing but a Massive with orange sheet metal and different trim. They tortured Allis long enough, put her to rest.
Did I metion that I REALLY, REALLY hate Massives?
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I saw a presentation on the cab top at a conference.  They are all made as just minor variations of the same design by the supplier.  Keeps costs down but lets each brand have a different look.  
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I like the orange ONE.  What a joke, I never thought I'd see it come to this.
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Your "AG Company" my behind, how long till the ex flooring salesman retires?
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Don't all the tractors in France run backwards?  You know, run the other way!!! LOL!!!
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I will never forgive Richenhagen for thrusting this upon us.
Spitting in the face of your loyal customer base is idiotic beyond measure. I have learned to hate masseys, too. I will never buy anything with that brand name. I own a challenger track tractor, and now wish I had never bought it. There will not be another on this farm.
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I'm with Charlie -- can't really be that hard, or expensive -- don't get it. Interesting to see the plant. Thanks for taking the time to get some pictures.
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We toured the plant in 2000 and it was impressive then.
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Is it true that one of the tractors back fired and all of the french workers ran to the front gate to surrender?  (Sorry, couldn't resist)
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You can get an orange tractor made by AGCO but it's a Valtra.  You can get Valtra in I think seven different colors or something like that.  Why didn't they do that with AGCO?  I have never got a good reason for them not to make an AGCO tractor with several different heritage colors.  Trimming down the lines for money savings is BS.  I thought they did it so they could get rid of some lower producing dealers but it seems like, at least around here, all of the dealers were retained.  So now I think it's just a European trying to screw Americans.  So, I move on.  I may buy AGCO-Allis tractors to get the air cooled diesels and get my parts for them from the Deutz dealers of which I have two that are closer to me than AGCO.  Anyway, I digress. 
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Massey sucks.
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Originally posted by AllisFreak MN AllisFreak MN wrote:

Massey sucks.
 
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Already stated my opinion on Massives, but it goes farther back than the AGCO version. I have disliked them since I was a kid having to run a a stupid little 135 gasser. It was gutless, hard-starting, and stayed broken down more than it was running. On top of that, I think having to use it with a scrape blade helping the neighbor do landscaping work is why I have a screwed up left knee these days. Maybe I go too far blaming the knee on it, but I have gotten off of it and hardly been able to walk, it hurt that bad.
 
Sorry for this turning into a bashing session. Thanks for sharing the plant pics.
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The pictures got me to thinking I wonder if all these tractors in the photo's are ones that are not sold yet and all the orange ones have homes here in the states? 

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Oldoug, I like the way you think!!
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Does anyone know if that plant is just an assembly plant or do they actually manufacture part of the tractors, like the transmissions/rear ends there? Place looks pretty neat and clean, no smoke stacks or dirty buildings.
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I attended the late Allis Chalmers funeral in 1985, I am sorry to see the once great orange fade but I refuse to mourn Agco. ALLIS CHALMERS ORANGE will always be dear to me. Whew I feel better now.
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This is a manufacturing building, they build the smaller rearend and transmissions here plus assemble all the tractors over 90HP to 275hp.  The CVT transmission and rearends are built in the Fendt factory in Marktobodorf (sp) Germany.  And the AGCO Sisu engines are built in Finland.  I have been to all but the Engine plant and my brother has been to all.  Very impressive factorys
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I don't care.  If that 5445 showed up in my yard I would not complain a bit.
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Rick, you wouldn't complain about the 5445?!

Don't you know that Massey causes bad knees, deficit spending, genital warts, global warming, etc.?  Everything is Massey's fault.  If you paint it orange though, it will all change as somehow the orange paint on the hood changes the iron underneath so that it is a completely different tractor.  People that were perfectly happy with an orange tractor, shriek like little girls and call it crap if the hood is red.
I am still not sure how a tractor can go from the greatest thing since sliced bread to the cause of all afflictions to mankind with a dab of paint but maybe one day I will figure it out.
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Hey Spud, you should probably go to the doctor and get those warts taken care of.
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I have a question:
If it's the Agco Tractor Plant in France, why is the printing on the sign in English  (Your Agriculture Company)? You'd think they would have had the words in French! Maybe I'm thinking too hard.

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Good Comeback AllisFreak!
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Thanks.
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Somehow people have this goofy idea that massey is loved all around the world. In my neck of the woods it is ridiculed. I would be embarassed to have that brand on my equipment. Taking away the brand I wanted did not automatically make me want massey. Taking the orange paint away and removing the AGCO name from it and calling it a massey doesn't change anything about how it is built or designed or what factory it came from, but it does have a very negative image in much of the midwest. I don't see that changing any time soon. They have pretty much poisoned the whole batch of AGCO brands with this move. With the exception of Gleaner, I will steer clear of any brand they market.
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Spud if you are honestly to stupid to understand the difference in paint,why would you even say anything?
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