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Carl(NWWI) 
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Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:27pm |
Ok, whos gunna be the first one to try it. I know i wanna. spendy i bet.
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DSeries4
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Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:46pm |
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I saw one at the Orange Spectacular this past summer, but it did not look that neat!
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OrangeFever
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Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:50pm |
Neat find anybody know the cost. Does anyone make a custom manifold without the turbo to replace stock one?
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firebrick43
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 12:24am |
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hard copper oil return line looks hooky and liable to crack at the worst time.
Also will an allis oil pump keep enough oil to a turbo?
I have seen these guys with an M in farmworld. I want to say it was 1500 plus for the kit but its been a while.
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Chris(WA)
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 6:07am |
I see the air cleaner is not connected. Is the oil bath cleaner too small to support the increased air volumes of a turboed engine?
Hate to build that kind of power then suck dirt thru it all day!
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 6:52am |
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I want one!
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mlpankey
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 7:10am |
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from extensive cylinder head flow testing . it is my opinion that the 226 engine at 7psi of boost would really respond in a hp increase . i would think the carb at 7psi of boost would need to be larger and the ignition would also need upgrade.
Edited by mlpankey - 07 Oct 2010 at 7:12am
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 8:04am |
 mlpankey wrote:
from extensive cylinder head flow testing . it is my opinion that the 226 engine at 7psi of boost would really respond in a hp increase . i would think the carb at 7psi of boost would need to be larger and the ignition would also need upgrade. |
My thoughts exactly. I know a guy that has a Keystone setup on a Farmall M. He just bolted it on, didnt change card or ign. It sure helped, could wake it up more if he would have did a few more upgrades
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 8:44am |
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mlpankey
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 9:10am |
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I have been kicking around installing a efi fuel system on a puller . just so I would be the first with a lap top hooked to a antique tractor. Could you imagine turbo and efi.
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AllisChalmers37
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 9:53am |
It says that it will work on a WC. I want one. It would make all the JD fans that tell me the JD 2cyl is better than the AC 4cyl think twice!!
I wonder how much of a power boost it would give a WC.
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Charlie175
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 10:09am |
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Going by the chart, you could get 109 hp out of it. But my math may be wrong....
Edited by Charlie175 - 07 Oct 2010 at 10:10am
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 10:24am |
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I have seen one on a IH M. The performance was NOT impressive. This was at a couple of antique pulls. I would be concerned with the fuel puddling in the intake pipe between the carb and the turbo. Just my 2cents. - AL
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mlpankey
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 12:27pm |
ALinIL wrote:
I have seen one on a IH M. The performance was NOT impressive. This was at a couple of antique pulls. I would be concerned with the fuel puddling in the intake pipe between the carb and the turbo. Just my 2cents. - AL |
I would think the 7 psi would keep the puddles down . your hp output is right on with a 85%ve
Edited by mlpankey - 07 Oct 2010 at 12:43pm
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 1:50pm |
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Should be able to put on D17,170,175 and E combine for those who want to pick a little faster.
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 6:53pm |
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I'd be leary of putting one of those on a tractor and then plowing all day with it. Might run good and hard for a while, but long term usage I'd be wondering what would happen even if there was enough radiator to keep the coolant under control.
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 6:57pm |
Brian Jasper co. Ia wrote:
I'd be leary of putting one of those on a tractor and then plowing all day with it. Might run good and hard for a while, but long term usage I'd be wondering what would happen even if there was enough radiator to keep the coolant under control. |
Or the normal oil pressure of 7 psi in those engines?
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 7:47pm |
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I would have to say 1500 would be cheap thats a pretty sweet manifold. And i bet not cheap but still looks nice.
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 8:28pm |
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have a freind with one on a D-17 been on for years 5-6 i know of
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 9:50pm |
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Norm, does he use it for heavy long term use like plowing?
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Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 7:18am |
Gary in da UP wrote:
Brian Jasper co. Ia wrote:
I'd be leary of putting one of those on a tractor and then plowing all day with it. Might run good and hard for a while, but long term usage I'd be wondering what would happen even if there was enough radiator to keep the coolant under control. |
Or the normal oil pressure of 7 psi in those engines? |
I would think a higher rate of flow and not pressure would be a more critical factor for turbo oil. Same principle as high volume low pressure hydros.
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Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 9:29am |
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They make it sound like the M is reliable.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 11:41am |
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I'm just wondering if the valves/pistons could handle the extra heat of running under 7psi boost, using all of that extra available power for an extended amount of time. Isn't the term brake mean effective pressure? The best example of exceeding BMEP is the super stockers that shoot colums of smoke 100+ ft in the air.
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Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 12:24pm |
Good wrote:
They make it sound like the M is reliable. |
? I know more than a few people with M's and haven't had issues with them and these are old time farmers.
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 1:58pm |
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Well , if one good, two should be more better. Twin turbo's and an intercooler, maybe a whiff of NOS, and on it go's
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Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 3:03pm |
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I dont know how the trans, clutch, hand clutch, and diff in those tractors would handle that kinda horse
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Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 4:25pm |
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Guys - I don't think you are going to break anything by adding the charger. You may shorten the power train life. The most you may see from this setup is a 20-25% increase in HP. Sound like a lot, but in reality 7-10 HP. This is a gas engine not a diesel. - AL
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Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 6:59pm |
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The Theroy on are tractor with multiple turbos is not to build more boost presure. Its to increase volume of air we dont run alot of boost a touch bit more than 7 psi but not near what a diesel super stock runs. Also dont forget the harder u squeeze the air the hotter it gets. I cant beleve 7psi makes a tremendous amount of heat.
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Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 9:19pm |
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Sorry Mitch, but we already got you beat up here in Michigan..MSD PN 8979.. :)
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Posted: 09 Oct 2010 at 6:26am |
Unstylish wrote:
Sorry Mitch, but we already got you beat up here in Michigan..MSD PN 8979.. :) |
mapping ignition is allright but i want to map fuel curve etc.
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