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Alex09(WI)
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Posted: 08 Jul 2017 at 4:05pm |
It looks like this company has reinvented the roto-baler, for a pretty steep price!
https://tractortoolsdirect.com/showroom/tx31-mini-round-baler-by-ibex/ |
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johnkc
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"Finally, you can control the quality of your hay by baling when the hay is at peak nutritional value, instead of when the farmer down the road gets around to it." the company must be ran by citybots with a reference towards farmers like that.....
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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yep....several companies are making the little ones, mostly they are made over seas somewhere and shipped here.
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DiyDave
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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A toy version of a round baler. I had rather go with a square baler for ease of handling and stacking. The only advantage to these would be weather resistance if left outside.
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thendrix
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I agree Hubert. I can't see a lot of moisture resistance because if rain soaks the first 3 or 4 inches you lose a fair percentage of the bale
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Gary Burnett
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 2928 |
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Fellow not far from me has one of the small round balers makes a bale about the size of a
Roto Baler and puts up a nice looking bale.Its pretty simple but works well definitely not a toy but a serious machine.I'd love to have one but I think he paid over 10K for it so I don't see one in my future soon.He gave me about 75 of the bales because he thought it wasn't up to the 'quality' of the hay his horses needed my goats thought it was OK.And it does far less damage to the hay than a square baler. |
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Gary Burnett
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With an AC Roto Baler if the bales are baled as large as they can go and baled very tight they'll keep real well out in the field,and when baling that tight it'll make a WD45 snort a little when the bale is close to being finished. |
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PaulB
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If someone want's the real McCoy I have a white top Roto-Baler available, I'll take less that what they're asking for those.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
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Hockeygoon
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If you want a "toy" round baler watch this one:
No tractor needed - just a good pair of shoes.
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thendrix
Orange Level Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 4831 |
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I'm surprised DR hasn't started marketing mini balers yet. I can see that being handy in steep terrain. Less chance for a roll over
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CaseyCreek
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I have wondered about this for awhile: How do you load a bale that is too small to lift with a bucket loader and too awkward to grab onto and pitch on to a wagon? If you could pitch it on the wagon how would you stack it? I have seen hay hooks that my dad used to use but that still seems slow and awkward when it comes to getting a good load on a wagon. What am i missing? |
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DiyDave
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Saw the above video... This gal's got that machine, all beat to hell: [TUBE]fIVAlV8YVF0[/TUBE]
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thendrix
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The best way to stack them would be on end I think. I'm guessing they probably weigh about the same as a square bale (45 - 65 lbs I guess). I bet somebody makes a 4 wide spear or something for them.
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shameless dude
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these small balers were originally designed for baling pine needles. used in the landscaping industry. then they caught on to bale hay and straw too. there is a dude in PA that re-designs a new Holland small square baler to make smaller square bales, pulled behind a 65 HP plus tractor it can usually pump out about 30 bales a minute. these are really loved by the horse people as they can be hauled to shows easier and the little kids can handle them easier for feeding. 1 bale will feed 2 horses at each feeding.
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JC-WI
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Wonder if that hay pusher still has that kind of steam yet... LOL
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Ranse
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That girl was impressive. There's no way I could work like that. As far as the small rolls go, not everyone has a tractor to handle a big roll. But with that said, I agree with Hubert, I rather have square bales in that case.
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DMiller
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She was putting the effort out, would love to rub on those tired muscles!!
A cutie too!! Was the way my Great Aunt and Uncle put up hay before balers, push to a pile then load on wagons then use loft hay grab to put in barn. Forks wore pretty hard running them on the grade pushing hay, would have flat spots on backside after a season! They still had the loose hay forks(9 tine) when I was younger then they just disappeared. |
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ibexowner
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I bought one of these IBEX TX31 mini round balers back in June 2019. I did this after a lot of research into balers, and after the farmer down the road once again let me down. We had been share baling our fields, we have horses as do they, after waiting many weeks we were informed he didn't really need any hay. Great.
So we decided to divorce ourselves from that arrangement and find another solution, looked at lots of used balers, but not interested in buying someone else problems. We have a Ford 2110 and a Boomer 40. We found an inline square baler, very compact lightweight and lower power requirements, in Japan, very expensive. Then we found a lot of mini round balers, the most expensive being the Italian ones, which cost more than twice the IBEX and lacked hydraulics. So we decided to roll the dice, we needed everything but the tractor, so we ordered the IBEX TX31 baler, a 4 wheel rake, a two tine teder, and a high speed drum mower, the entire package was delivered to our farm for under $11,000 I made 1,000 bales, about 40 pounds each, The last week of June 2019. We were 4 weeks behind the other locals here. All 4 pieces of equipment are more than satisfactory, the baler works just fine and does the job. Unlike the expensive Italian model, it has it's own hydraulic system for opening the door. The baler is so interesting, I started creating a wifi enabled wireless control system for it, to add a lot of functionality and supervision to the baler, including bale moisture content. The baler works with a very low power tractor, it is no issue for our 40 hp tractors. I've got about 18 or so videos on it and the automation project. Oh, and we started second cutting, baled 200 today set at higher density, 60 lbs a bale Edited by ibexowner - 06 Sep 2019 at 12:07am |
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DiyDave
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Thanks for the update. For the lower HP tractors, there really is no other option. As for how to handle (Load by hand) these bales, just like a roto-baler, when I was handling them, use a hay hook, in each hand, makes things a lot easier. Also, back when I had a roto-baler, I also had a ATV, with a snowplow, that I had bodged together, on the front. I would take the ATV/plow, and push a pile of bales together, about 10-15 bales, from each direction. then take a wagon or dump truck out to the pile of bales, and load in fewer stops, and no schleppin bales while walkin along a moving wagon...
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ibexowner
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Actually......
the baler shipped encased in angle iron, so much angle that I easily built a hay spear for my loader in an hour. I use the spear to load the bales on the trailer, and unload them and stack in the barn. As far as manually, you just pick them up with your hands on each end where the spear would enter. My mom loaded 100 by hand last night cause I wont let her use the spears, she keeps running them into the ground and bending them. Shes 86. The horses are hers, once she cant bale she cant ride. The spears are spaced so you load bales 1 and 3, then bales 2 and 4 Edited by ibexowner - 06 Sep 2019 at 6:01am |
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PaulB
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4670 |
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11 grand plus the already owned tractor to go into the haymaking business. A Roto-Baler, PTO rake/tedder, mower and CA would have been a lot less. On top of all that, the Roto-Baler has s completely automatic after you stop motion to finish the bale.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
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ibexowner
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Can you post links to all the equipment and pricing and shipping ? |
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ibexowner
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DROSERA 280 ROTARY TEDDER
http://www.terra-implements.it/portfolio-items/drosera/ IBEX TX 31 MINI ROUND BALER http://ibexequipment.com/ibex-mini-round-baler-twine-wrap/ IBEX TS144 4 WHEEL RAKE http://tractortoolsdirect.com/showroom/ibex-ts114_4-wheel-rake/ KOWALKSI Z001/2 DRUM MOWER http://www.hodgesfarmequipment.com/productdetail.php?idx=2406 After many iterations of making practice orders on the internet myself, I stumbled across Steve Carver of Carver Equipment, he ended up providing all the above delivered and at 500 dollars less than the best I could do on my own. His support during sale shipping and afterward has been stellar. In comparing prices, this included shipping to my barn and lift truck service, not cheap. I sold 800 bales of the first cut at 3.75 a bale, we wanted the second cut for over winter, baling that now. So we got $3,000 back off the first cutting. We don't load or deliver From cutting teddering raking baling loading transport to barn and unloading on that first 1,000 bales, I did it all myself, and I never left the seat of a tractor or picked up anything myself. http://www.facebook.com/groups/616885855078958/permalink/1886581154776082/ Edited by ibexowner - 06 Sep 2019 at 8:07am |
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ibexowner
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Am I wrong or is this allis roto baler everyone talks about and is comparing here is only available used as a vintage piece of equipment, and that it weighs over a ton at 2300 pounds ?
By the way, one of the issues we took into consideration on other used balers was weight, we have hills, there is no way our compact tractors could hold back those heavy square balers, we can slide on some of the hills with the ibex if the rear tires get on cut hay going downhill and trying to stop, its like ice. Edited by ibexowner - 06 Sep 2019 at 8:16am |
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WDJim
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can roto baler twine be found I am about out. getting desperate. text me at 308-340-6405 thanks
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ibexowner
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So will the IBEX once my wifi enabled automation add on is completed. Plans are to market it. |
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Gary Burnett
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Seems like a crazy amount of money to spend to make a small bale of hay when balers in working ready to go to field condition can be had for less than $2000.
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ibexowner
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Can you post a link to the lower cost balers that will work on a compact tractor, i assume they weight less than 1,000 lbs ? Cause I searched high and low and the IBEX was the lowest cost solution I found. Also, I already got back $3,000 by selling the first cut I didn't want in the first place. So 4 years and it's free equipment Edited by ibexowner - 06 Sep 2019 at 9:27am |
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