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    Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 8:30pm
hi i just got a tractor that is not factory made, probably shop built. it has 2 WC rearends, one in front one in back, it has a 389 pontiac motor with 2 transfer cases. it articulates in the middle. my question is if anyone here has any info on it. i will be getting it home tommorow and can post pics, it was purchased in centrel minnesota and was told the guy made 6 of them, sometime early mid 1970's. it is painted allis orange.
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Can't wait to see pics of that, sounds interesting.
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Just curious,Where in MN did you buy it?
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it has tin that is nicely shaped and tractor is not butchered up ,guy did a nice job. i bought it near st cloud ,mn. iam in need of 2   14.9-28 tires for it, if i can get some and mount them i want to take it to albany pioneer threshing show on the 17th and try to get more info on it
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Where in MN are you located? I'll be in Albany on Saturday the 18th.
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iam near holdingford, about 10 miles from albany grounds.
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Heck, you could drive it there.
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yes i could of if he would of sold it to me in the spring, now i need tires and get it running,motor is free so shoudent take much.
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Is it like this one? I know NOTHING about this one, except it was at the Albert City Gathering of the Orange in August. 
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Looks like the rearends and the decals are the only WC parts left but it sure looks tough.
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no it doesent look like that one, i will have pics tommorow night it was in shoulder high grass when i last looked at it, but frontend was more out front i thought, 
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I don't know that this one is articulating, but does it look like this???
 
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that one is closer, but not that much allis tin. pics will tell us more tommorow pm. this one pictured doesent look to articulate, or its rear steer
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That is cool looking, but it looks like it has 2-1/2 ton running gear, steerable axles.
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as i look closer at  the  pic posted, those are either 2 1/2 or 1 1/2 ton gmc axles and frame from the military. i have used them in my mud trucks in the past. 
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lonnie u beat me to it, got distracted by tv program iam watching
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I like that first pic. Looks like u could do a loy with a late model 262 diesel. Greg, was it turboed?
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I do not remember seeing a turbo on it.
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There was one in the mid 70's at a JD dealer in Findley Ohio. It had 2 WC rears and a GMC V6. They said it would outpull a 4020.
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neat, when i post pics maybe it will look familier. iam not picking it up until thursday now
 
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Originally posted by D-17_Dave D-17_Dave wrote:

I like that first pic. Looks like u could do a loy with a late model 262 diesel. Greg, was it turboed?
 
301 Turbocharged, here is a pic of the other side.
 


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I like the one that Greg and John show photos of in Albert City. What engine did it have and transmission? Any idea who built it?
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I have plans (in my head) to build an articulating tractor out of left over parts. It will have two WC rear ends but stock height and powered by a 262 gas. (4W93)
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Does the WC in that last picture have a WD wide front end on it?

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Jeremy, yes that appears to be a WD or early 45, 3 bolt wide front.
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Well that gives me some ideas
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There was a blacksmith in Montgomery City Mo that made one years ago. They sold it at his sale but I don't know where it went.
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would you recognize it if you seen it?
pics tommorow night
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The suspense is killing me.

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Me too. 40 chev, those big axles on that second pic don't seem to be top-loaders like the Rockwells, at least not that I can see. Someone posted that on here a while back. Speaking of mud trucks, I had a buddy with a 2 1/2 frame and running gear. The body had rotted off, so he took the body from the old Dodge station wagon he had in the weeds and grafted it on. Looked really wicked, especially with the tandems on there.(required a leetle fender trimming and sheet metal work to clear that.LOL!) Painted OD green, of course.
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