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allis g ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2012 Location: Templeton Points: 412 |
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Got this yesterday not seized but don't know if it runs was stored inside for 20+ years old guy said it was on a lettuce harvester. Missing the generator and cap for the gas tank and the muffler. It's got the distillate tank and gas tank on it. How do I figure out what year it is?
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allis g ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2012 Location: Templeton Points: 412 |
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here's another shot of it
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allis g ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2012 Location: Templeton Points: 412 |
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oops
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 54153 |
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I think I can see some numbers stamped behind the air cleaner, in your pecs. Look on the flange of the motor, area in question is sloped downward, at 45º, last inch of the motor casting, at the back end, left side, as viewed from operator's position, if it were a tractor.
Looks like a B power unit...
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allis g ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2012 Location: Templeton Points: 412 |
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Ok so I pressured washed all the gunk off of the unit. Found an aluminum plate stamped with Allis Chalmers Power Unit Model B-125 Serial number as best as I can see it is
PU-87246 followed by a B. So if I just go by the numbers on that it is a 1947
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allis g ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2012 Location: Templeton Points: 412 |
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Ok guys I found the serial number for the engine on the B125. It is as best as I can tell
CE168259KA. So if I read that correctly it was built in 1951 and the KA means it is a kerosene engine. What does the CE mean?
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 54153 |
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I think CE means that it is a C Engine. The only difference is in how the HP was rated, at a higher RPM, to give the C engine about 2 more HP. If yours is a distillate (kerosene) engine, its not much more HP, than a B engine, due to a lower compression ratio...
It is possible that an engine from a tractor was swapped into the power unit, at some time in the last 60+ years...
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allis g ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2012 Location: Templeton Points: 412 |
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DIY That's what I was able to find out too about the C engine. Just needed to confirm it. So that means it was off a C tractor but also a kerosene tractor. That is what was confusing me. Still pretty cool though.
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PaulB ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 5109 |
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“CE” at the beginning of the engine serial number, means it left the factory as a 125 CID engine.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
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Gary ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5901 |
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Looks like CE 168259 KA would be an early 1952 as per Bryan Clemson website. Gary http://wsmth.people.clemson.edu/SNFind/esn_tsn1.htm |
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allis g ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2012 Location: Templeton Points: 412 |
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Ok thanks everyone now I've got to figure out what to do with it. Thinking about a big fan on it like in the book. It was a prototype, thought that might be fun.
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allis g ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2012 Location: Templeton Points: 412 |
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Ok here's another question. Look at the 3rd picture there is what looks like an electric oil pump next to the oil filter it has a wire running to the magneto and an oil tube out the bottom and another one out the side the bottom one goes to the bottom of the oil filter the one out the side goes back into the block? The top has what looks like an adjustment arrow on it. Never seen one of these on any of my other tractors.
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Bull ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Location: Lamar, Missouri Points: 589 |
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That sounds like it may be a low oil pressure shut down switch similar to a Murphy switch used on irrigation engines.
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