| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
DaveCinIN 
Orange Level
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Kouts, IN
Points: 629
|
 Post Options
 Thanks(0)
 Quote  Reply
 Topic: 7045 range shift
Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 1:45pm |
I was driving my 7045 Power Director tractor down the road in Hi range and it came to a screeching halt. Shoved in the clutch as fast as I could. When I started to let the clutch out, it just pulled the engine down. I got it in low range and it moved. I put it in the range shifter in neutral and it still move when I let the clutch out. I thought it might be a bad cable. I took the floor panel off and power washed so I could see what was going on. The lever is moving when I move the shifter. Could it be a broken pin or bent shifter fork? It has always been hard to get into park. Thanks for any help.
|
|
AC 7045
AC 190XT with Gleaner L engine
Hesston, New Holland and New Idea hay equipment
OK, so what's the speed of dark?
|
 |
|
Sponsored Links
|
|
|
Lynn Marshall
Orange Level Access
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: Dana, Iowa
Points: 2379
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 2:19pm |
|
It sounds like the low range gear has seized to the pinion shaft. It will move in low range, but when in high range,it is trying to pull in both and then stalls out the engine. Even in neutral,the low range gear is locked to the shaft and it will continue to move. Expensive project.😛
|
|
Orange Blood
Orange Level
Joined: 29 Nov 2010
Location: ColoradoSprings
Points: 4053
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 4:22pm |
|
Ouch, really sounds like a seized low range gear as Lynn said. If you can see down in there, my guess is the collar will not be lined up with the low range. Are you driving is in low and you aren't actually pulling the shift collard into the low detent?
|
|
Still in use:
HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7
|
|
DaveCinIN
Orange Level
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Kouts, IN
Points: 629
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 7:06pm |
|
Lynn's statement sounds right. It's in low range when the lever is in low or neutral. Locked up with the lever in high. I can't pull the shifter all the way back into where low should be. It went into park but I didn't try it while running. I think this will be going to a shop for repair. I don't have the facilities. I can haul it anywhere in Indiana. I'll have to research some shops. Any suggestions?
|
|
AC 7045
AC 190XT with Gleaner L engine
Hesston, New Holland and New Idea hay equipment
OK, so what's the speed of dark?
|
|
d21_man
Bronze Level
Joined: 26 Jul 2015
Location: Rossville, IN
Points: 31
|
Post Options
Thanks(1)
Quote Reply
Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 8:29pm |
|
Till-Harvest on the south side of Wabash. They start getting busy this time of year so typically the sooner the better to get in their schedule. 260-563-5052
|
|
MACK
Orange Level
Joined: 17 Nov 2009
Points: 7664
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 9:34pm |
|
Sounds like what happens after setting for years, then taking for a ride in hi range or needed oil changed a long time ago. Make sure dip stick tube is not loose in housing. If dip stick tube pulled out when you pull dip stick, a hand full of dirt falls in transmission every time the tube comes out. MACK
|
|
DaveCinIN
Orange Level
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Kouts, IN
Points: 629
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 9:50pm |
|
I got this tractor a few years ago from the family that bought it new. It was used every year, early years for tillage and later to pull grain wagons and move equipment. It has been my main hay making tractor. Oils and filters have been changed regularly. And the dipstick tube is tight and has never come out that I know of.
|
|
AC 7045
AC 190XT with Gleaner L engine
Hesston, New Holland and New Idea hay equipment
OK, so what's the speed of dark?
|
|
Orange Blood
Orange Level
Joined: 29 Nov 2010
Location: ColoradoSprings
Points: 4053
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 6:34pm |
|
We had one lock up, because the little rubber grommet (o-ring) on the front of the pinon shaft came apart, or so we believe. Dad always squawks a $0.30 o-ring, cost a $1000.00 rebuild. (all our own labor) We also replaced both final drive ring gears due to missing teeth.
|
|
Still in use:
HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7
|
|
DaveCinIN
Orange Level
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Kouts, IN
Points: 629
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 8:30pm |
|
Thank d21-man. I called Till-Harvest and discussed my tractor's problem. Took the 7045 there Friday. They seemed very knowledgeable about the 7045 and the range shift.
And there were several Allis Chalmers tractors in back.
Edited by DaveCinIN - 12 Mar 2018 at 7:39pm
|
|
AC 7045
AC 190XT with Gleaner L engine
Hesston, New Holland and New Idea hay equipment
OK, so what's the speed of dark?
|
|
7060
Orange Level
Joined: 16 Sep 2009
Location: Missouri
Points: 1148
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 9:38pm |
|
I had a 7060 that did that. If you put it in neutral and stood on the brakes sometimes it would free up. Sometimes it would just free up on its own and run for a while and do it again. Always had clean oil in it and level maintained. Eventually parted the tractor out.
|
|
R.W
Orange Level
Joined: 31 Dec 2010
Location: Swanton, OH
Points: 2975
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 8:36pm |
|
Had s similar deal happen on both dads 7030 and 7045. 7030 broke loose but will pop out of ranges now. 7045 got a range unit from a 7040 put in it as it would not come loose.
|
|
In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
|
|
DaveCinIN
Orange Level
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Kouts, IN
Points: 629
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 15 Apr 2018 at 10:05pm |
|
An update on the 7045. Picked it up from the shop on Friday. Lynn was correct. The low speed gear had seized to the pinion shaft, so the pinion shaft, gear, bearings, seals and gaskets were replaced. While in the shop, they resealed the PD shift valve and did a couple of other small repairs.
|
|
AC 7045
AC 190XT with Gleaner L engine
Hesston, New Holland and New Idea hay equipment
OK, so what's the speed of dark?
|
|
SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Shelbyville IL
Points: 8612
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 15 Apr 2018 at 10:13pm |
|
sounds like a happy ending....
|
|
DaveCinIN
Orange Level
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Kouts, IN
Points: 629
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 17 Apr 2018 at 8:31pm |
|
I did learn to drain the fuel out the next time. It had about 20 gallons of diesel when it went to the shop. They put 4 gallons back in and charged me for it.
|
|
AC 7045
AC 190XT with Gleaner L engine
Hesston, New Holland and New Idea hay equipment
OK, so what's the speed of dark?
|
|
SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Shelbyville IL
Points: 8612
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 17 Apr 2018 at 9:32pm |
 DaveCinIN wrote:
I did learn to drain the fuel out the next time. It had about 20 gallons of diesel when it went to the shop. They put 4 gallons back in and charged me for it. |
That seems a little "dirty".
|
|
Stan IL&TN
Orange Level
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: Elvis Land
Points: 6730
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 18 Apr 2018 at 7:21am |
|
Now if the mechanic put that old fuel in his truck then that was dirty but if I was the mechanic who just repaired it, I would be very hesitant to put back questionable fuel and take that chance. I think it's a coin toss at best.
|
|
1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
|
|
DaveCinIN
Orange Level
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Kouts, IN
Points: 629
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 18 Apr 2018 at 6:29pm |
|
Stan, the fuel was put in a week before it was drained. It was clean in the tank.
|
|
AC 7045
AC 190XT with Gleaner L engine
Hesston, New Holland and New Idea hay equipment
OK, so what's the speed of dark?
|
|
MACK
Orange Level
Joined: 17 Nov 2009
Points: 7664
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 18 Apr 2018 at 9:08pm |
|
I have always pumped fuel from tank when tank had to come off, then pumped it back in through filter to farmers tank.
Does that shop have a waste oil furnace? MACK
|
|
DaveCinIN
Orange Level
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Kouts, IN
Points: 629
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 18 Apr 2018 at 9:35pm |
Don't know, Mack. It doesn't matter now. Next time it will go with an almost empty tank.
|
|
AC 7045
AC 190XT with Gleaner L engine
Hesston, New Holland and New Idea hay equipment
OK, so what's the speed of dark?
|
|
victoryallis
Orange Level
Joined: 15 Apr 2010
Location: Ludington mi
Points: 2878
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 9:43am |
DaveCinIN wrote:
Don't know, Mack. It doesn't matter now. Next time it will go with an almost empty tank. |
The fuel situation is not something you really want to happen but in the big picture of how much money this repair cost you it’s a small percentage. Who knows maybe it was an honest mistake.
|
|
8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
|
|
