190XT intercooler?

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

Must be Shooting for 200 HP!

Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD

It would run more efficiently and you could turn the pump down a tad and not have to worry about running too much HP.

Hey Grinder220, do you still run that dryer or is this an old picture? What size is it?

Tbone95 wrote:

Hey Grinder220, do you still run that dryer or is this an old picture? What size is it?

500 bushel and thats from this past fall. Usually have a G705 moline running it.

grinder220 wrote:

Tbone95 wrote:

Hey Grinder220, do you still run that dryer or is this an old picture? What size is it?

500 bushel and thats from this past fall. Usually have a G705 moline running it.

Yeah, I thought it looked fatter than mine. Mine is 350 Bu. I'm just glad I'm not the only one still using something like that, lol!

Thanks Grinder220 for the info. I was curious if this had been done. I am not sure I will try it, I was just curious if it helped fuel efficiency and what other advantages that you feel you gained? What type of intercooler did you use? The XT is easy on fuel in my opinion but always thinking of upgrades if they are effective and make a already great tractor even better.
Charlie as my little brother, I may not have out pulled you this summer due to my rear tires, but power is something I have plenty of. I bet I can spank yours on a dyno! Lol. My pulling days are over, she proved her power this summer, farming is all she will do from now on.

1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

More power yes,better fuel economy I can't say for sure. Its always been a very fuel efficient tractor and I've never really noticed any difference. It's off a 7020 and if you ever do put one on you'll want all the lines that the 7020 uses and the spacer for the oil fill. Also need to grind the front part of the cooler down slightly to clear the alternators hot wire.

Would you be willing to share where you got the seat? Dad retro-fitted a bobcat seat on the original frame somehow 12 years ago and it is starting to fail miserably, LOL!!

Rob you know you love rolling the coal at the track!

Edited by Charlie175 - 05 Jan 2018 at 5:45am

Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD

The seat frame is origional. 3 piece seat cushions came from Ricks AC tractor parts. He is a member on the forum. He sells top quality parts. These have the metal backing as opposed to plastic or wood of other company’s. Thanks everyone for the nice comments. I am pretty proud of her. He also sells the bushing kit for the frame.

1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

XT's at just under 100 hp with stock turbo ran 12-14 psi intake pressure max - the 7020 with the smaller .58 A/R ratio exhaust housing on a TO4B80 and the extra fuel ran over 20 PSI.

The difference in intake air temp was double or more ... you engineers can figure the exact # T= p/(r R) ha...

at 10% over stock fuel setting, as stated, the cooling system was maxed out if the radiator was perfect - the addition of a 6 blade fan as was supplied by aftermarket add on AC systems will keep one at about the same temp... or it did on my XT on a dyno test at 100 hp... the down side is worn pulleys will result in short belt life as the extra hp required by the fan is an increased load on the belt. (note - the 7000 series had different # of blades on the fan for ROPS vs Cab w/ air - putting one of these on a 210 -220 with the double A fan belts results in same problem) Also keep in mind the intercooler was not designed to increase hp - it was to keep the engine life the same at a higher hp setting. The intercooler will only add hp IF there is more fuel being introduced into the combustion chamber that could be burnt w/o the intercooler.. adding an intercooler w/o adding the cooling needed to handle the intercooler will result in shorter engine life when the optimum coolant and oil temp is exceeded. It is the same for adding a turbo as to hp on natural aspirated diesel engines.

Edited by tbran - 06 Jan 2018 at 9:35am

When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..

tbran wrote:

XT's at just under 100 hp with stock turbo ran 12-14 psi intake pressure max - the 7020 with the smaller .58 A/R ratio exhaust housing on a TO4B80 and the extra fuel ran over 20 PSI.

The difference in intake air temp was double or more ... you engineers can figure the exact # T= p/(<font face="Math1">r <font face="Times New Roman,Times">R<font face="Math1">) ha...

at 10% over stock fuel setting, as stated, the cooling system was maxed out if the radiator was perfect - the addition of a 6 blade fan as was supplied by aftermarket add on AC systems will keep one at about the same temp... or it did on my XT on a dyno test at 100 hp... the down side is worn pulleys will result in short belt life as the extra hp required by the fan is an increased load on the belt. (note - the 7000 series had different # of blades on the fan for ROPS vs Cab w/ air - putting one of these on a 210 -220 with the double A fan belts results in same problem) Also keep in mind the intercooler was not designed to increase hp - it was to keep the engine life the same at a higher hp setting. The intercooler will only add hp IF there is more fuel being introduced into the combustion chamber that could be burnt w/o the intercooler.. adding an intercooler w/o adding the cooling needed to handle the intercooler will result in shorter engine life when the optimum coolant and oil temp is exceeded. It is the same for adding a turbo as to hp on natural aspirated diesel engines.

TBran thanks for all your information. I've read how Turbo compressor can heat up intake air sometimes 4-5 times. I remember reading on here about how farmers in the southern USA would fabricate additional intercooler plumbing beyond it to aid cooling in higher temperature regions. Sounds like the 7020 could have benefitted from additional plumbing no matter where it was operating.

DrAllis, yes that is so true. Ever mistakenly touch a shop air compressor's tank fill pipe that routes from it's piston cylinder(s) to it's air tank? When running, that pipe is seriously HOT. Makes me think that AC should have built the 7020 with an exhaust manifold pyrometer sensor mounted before turbo with it's temp gauge mounted into the operators cab dash. I have a pyrometer in my truck's cummins exhaust and try to keep it below 1200 degrees when trailering a heavy load.

I assume there is nothing "stock" as far as parts in the head/valve train in that type of application?

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