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    Posted: 05 Nov 2015 at 11:26pm
Hello all,

I'm currently on the hunt for any pictures, or information, about the locomotive(s) at the Allis Chalmers plant in Milwaukee.

I'm a member of quite a few museums, and was doing some research on a particular unit we have and it just so happens that AC purchased new from EMD (Electro Motive Diesel, a branch of GM at the time) a SW1 switcher. I can't seem to find any pictures or much info at all, so I figure this would be the place to come.
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that would be engine #904
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dan73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Nov 2015 at 6:29am
I Googled Shameless engine number and got the link below don't know it it is what you are looking for but it looks like it might be.
http://www.hodrrm.org/body.cfm?id=160
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Nov 2015 at 2:59pm
I went to the EMD site, Allis bought a early SW1 V6 600hp, road number 8, no pictures I can find.
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There were slides of that #8 engine on ebay, page is gone, here's a couple icons


This page lists the unit: http://www.american-rails.com/emd-sw1.html

Some of the SW1 cab electrical equipment, contactors and such on early units at least, have name plates indicating AC made the gear for EMD.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JohnCO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Aug 2016 at 12:14am
Does anyone know where the locomotive is now?

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There another topic in this forum that has good pics, including this nice one from SkyHighBalloon:
http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114304&title=allis-chalmers-locomotive
http://https://www.flickr.com/photos/22244341@N06/3029802397/in/photostream/

There's some links, and discussion above about engine 904 being AC, may be, but I'm not reading that as 904 is a renumber of engine #8, given the trucks/brakes particularly are different config, different stack, cab door windows, lights, as compared below.

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I believe they also used a "Plymouth" brand locomotive for smaller pulls
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it was painted black and is/was for sale, but can't remember where it's sitting. said it still runs, was a gasser.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 8:22pm
Could be same engine just updated, hard to tell but the old arch bar trucks were discarded long ago and the exhaust is a change to control noise/sparks, would have to examine s/n to know.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 6:08pm
I am thinking underwent a rebuild to bring up to newer specs. Ditch Lights, still has same horn, same bell configuration and same louvers on hood sides, same head lamp. The stack could be for a grain operation, the cab rebuilt to eliminate the shade eye brows they did no longer need.
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I think your right about the stack dave . I know when I hauled rice and soybeans out of the field to the driers they had a couple switch engines running around with that spark arrestor stack . I think its a safety thing when the locomotive has to go into a building with all the grain dust so it wont cause a flash fire.
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You know, I toured that plant with my father when it was in operation.  I can remember seeing that locomotive moving flat cars of tractors around.
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