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    Posted: 25 Feb 2012 at 10:22am
Anyone see the 7080 at Central Iowa Farm Store with 254 original hours ? Its a one owner , looks sharp , seen it on the front cover of Tractorhouse - wonder what they are asking ?
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Accordingly to Tractorhouse website, $32500.00
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It aint that nice !!
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Look at how the trim ring on the tach has been repainted - badly.  I'd say the tach has been replaced.  Mike



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For sure the tach has been replaced fooled with and very poor paint job on it!  I would say tractor was repainted also.
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There was a guy on ebay who tried to sell his 7060 with like 10hrs on it or something for $60k.    This reminded me of that lol. 

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I have seen the tractor, and I am confident it is legitimate. The guys at the farm store like to touch things up with paint, once in a while the results aren't quite what they hoped for. The tractor had been sitting in a shed on a farm for years and the wind blew the shed down last July 11th. And it blew the corn down and a bunch of trees and just generally made a mess. I think at that point the owner decided it was time to let the 7080 go to a new home. I think a window got knocked out and maybe a light damaged, but it is all fixed up again.  The low hours make it unique, but I think the pricing is plenty high on it.
Did some of the late maroon belly tractors have the new style cab step? I am thinking someone had adapted the new style on. My 7050 is that way-nothing wrong with it, it is much more convenient, but it isn't exactly accurate. (if that matters to you)


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is it a maroon belly or black?
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Originally posted by Nate (OH) Nate (OH) wrote:

There was a guy on ebay who tried to sell his 7060 with like 10hrs on it or something for $60k.    This reminded me of that lol. 

I saw that 7060 in person, it was legit.  It was supposed to be the last tractor that dealer got new to sell before they let their contract go, it was a time capsule, original everything.  Woould love to get ahold of that one.
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I would bet it's legit.  My 40 hour 8010 came from Central Iowa Farm Store in 1993.  Also, where are you going to find new Good Year Power Torques today?
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Sorry folks, you are trying to tell me a 35 year old tractor, that has a tach that is jacked up, and rear tires half worn out, and don't even look like factory lug design, only has 254 original hours on it???????  Looks repainted, AC compressors were black, looks like it has had pump work, injection lines nuts have no paint, all new Rust on the inside of the door.  Sorry I was born at night, but not last night.  Even if it was "that NEW" it still isn't worth about half that much money.
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Here's the theme on this one, If in fact the details/facts are correct on this tractor, hat's off to the seller[s] for there honesty, if the facts are as some have noted are that this machine is not original houred and misrepresented, bad people not being honest, shame on them, they have to live with the shame. 
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My brochure for a black belly 7000 shows what looks like those tires and it has a print date of August 1978. My brochure for the 7040/60/80 dated November 1976 also shows what looks to be this type of tire on some of the picturs but there isn't one good picture showing the air compressor. The seat doesn't look like this low houred 7080 as there are some pleats sewn in the seat in the brochure. I would question why that low houred of a tractor would have had holes put in the cab top towards the rear for what I would guess are for added lights and then there aren't any lights mounted there. The paint off the injector line nuts is questionable too. I would have to see it in person to be sure. It sure looks nice though.

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Rear rubber is at 50%? The seat has been replaced and if the bugundy belly 7080's were like the 7060's the tach has been replaced one or twice. I'd say it's very unlikely those hour are correct.
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I don't know these guys from Adam but do find it odd that anyone is suspicious of paint off the injector line nuts. Every post I have seen about someone reviving an engine which has set around as this one supposedly has especially a diesel has always included changing all the fluids including priming fresh fuel through the system. I would expect to see fresh tool marks on the injectors and drain plugs as well as all new filters. Frankly, I would be more concerned if someone claimed tractor had been sitting a long time but now was running and didn't have aforementioned done as it would suggest they pulled or cranked until it fired with all that old stuff in it.
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Originally posted by LionelinKY LionelinKY wrote:

I don't know these guys from Adam but do find it odd that anyone is suspicious of paint off the injector line nuts. Every post I have seen about someone reviving an engine which has set around as this one supposedly has especially a diesel has always included changing all the fluids including priming fresh fuel through the system. I would expect to see fresh tool marks on the injectors and drain plugs as well as all new filters. Frankly, I would be more concerned if someone claimed tractor had been sitting a long time but now was running and didn't have aforementioned done as it would suggest they pulled or cranked until it fired with all that old stuff in it.

Lionel,

I am not trying to beat anyone up, I don't know you, nor many others personally on here either.

Here is where I am coming from with the paint on the injector line nuts.  The only time you ever need to crack the injector lines AT THE PUMP, is typically when you do pump work.  As a side note, if the engine ran when parked, even 5-10 years ago, and the fuel hasn't gone to crap, then fresh batteries would typically start it right up, may take a little cranking to build pump pressure, but that wouldn't be much.  If you crack lines to bleed injectors that is done at the injector, not at the pump.  I am not using this one item alone to debunk the low original hours, but it is one of many observations I saw, and if I were actually looking at the tractor, I would look carefully at a lot of other things be fore I "declare" the tractor's owner a liar, right now, I am just saying something don't make sense.
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If it was a black belly and it really had only 254 hours it would be worth it.  Think out what $32,500 would get you in another color newer tractor? Not much.  Family member spent more than that on a Ford 8870 and my 7080 that had been to hell and back several times before I bought I will run with it just fine.
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I will vouch for the guys at Central Iowa Farm Store. They always ask plenty and strive for top dollar, but they have always been straight shooters with us. If Bill and Todd and Ryan tell me something, I know it is fact.
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One fact I do know.  My dad's 1977 7040 had a maroon A/C compressor and this style of tire as original equipment.  This style of tire has not been available since 1981 or 1982 and I'd say there's better than 75% tread remaining.  Just have to remember these weren't deep lug tires to begin with.
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bottom line on this one...at 35,000 it's gonna sit there till it rots away
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I have a 5020 4x4 with loader. I am second ower. I bought this tractor with 121 hrs. It has 141 hrs on now. Over time things just take their toll. I repainted the rims because spot rust started, no fluid. Some of the fuels lines , paint started coming off. Factory don't use much or any primer. Its hard to keep low hour tractors looking new yet. Still its buyer beware.
 
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Maybe  2254 hours, but 254, hard to believe, Trev.
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The stadium lights on this tractor were added on too weren't they?  I don't really recall them as an option for the maroon belly. 
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Well boys, it seems to this old country boy that those of you that has actually put eyes on this tractor IN PERSON seem to think it is legit, and those who have only seen pictures do not, so I would suggest that in all fairness to the folks who are selling this machine, all you skeptics saddle-up and go look at it in person before you make a decision to call someone a dishonest liar, and if you will be honest with yourself, that is what you are doing.
 
Most of you probably cannot afford the tractor anyway so you want to run it down, and probably someone who needs a good tractor will step up, make an offer and go home with a bargain.
 
What a bunch of JOKERS !!!
 
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Originally posted by Boogerowen Boogerowen wrote:

Well boys, it seems to this old country boy that those of you that has actually put eyes on this tractor IN PERSON seem to think it is legit, and those who have only seen pictures do not, so I would suggest that in all fairness to the folks who are selling this machine, all you skeptics saddle-up and go look at it in person before you make a decision to call someone a dishonest liar, and if you will be honest with yourself, that is what you are doing.
 
Most of you probably cannot afford the tractor anyway so you want to run it down, and probably someone who needs a good tractor will step up, make an offer and go home with a bargain.
 
What a bunch of JOKERS !!!
 
Up until now I thought this was a wonderful forum, but NOW I am beginning to wonder !!!
 
 
 
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Well Mr. Owen, 

You better plan on joining the crowd then, you post is no better, you call us a bunch of Jokers, and you never put in the effort to drive your butt around and meet us all.

Deal with it, we are skeptical, I don't see anyone calling them a liar, just making observations.  As I said in my post, I would want to see the tractor and check may other things BEFORE declaring them a liar.  
Fact:  Any state where a vehicle is registered if the odometer has been altered, then the mileage is legally "unknown"  Fact that tachometer has been altered. PERIOD, none of us know to what extent, but it has been altered.  They did not come from the factory with that crappy paint job on the bezel.
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Well, Orange Blood, I certainly didn't mean for you to be upset on this the lord's day, but it seemed that maybe you and others had a personal vendetta against the folks who are trying to sell their machine, since you made all those comments without seeing this tractor in person, and as I strained MY eyes trying to magnify the pictures enough to see the paint on the injector lines, I decided that you must have another reason for shooting these folks down as you were.
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This is a great Forum, we are not "Jokers", how does a comment like that pertain to the thread???? 
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Guys are always quick to doubt.... Then they run in down because they cant afford it or wish they had it. Would I pay that for a maroon belly 7080? Nope. Am I on the internet running my mouth about the sellers? Nope.
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Whoa, Whoa, I wasnt calling anybody anything. Ive taken a turn or two around the hayfield, 80% of it on Allis tractors. Im just saying a 34 plus year old tractor with less than 8 hours a year on it is a little difficult to imagine. Nonetheless, its a very good looking machine for the age. And your right, despite having worked  since I was a little kid, I couldnt pay 10k for the tractor right now, something to do with our outstanding for the rich, get rid of the Wheat Board, get rid of public Health Care, get rid of Pensions except for themselves, collect more tax, line their pockets, Conservative government. Trev.

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