Lionel,

I am not trying to beat anyone up, I don't know you, nor many others personally on here either.

Here is where I am coming from with the paint on the injector line nuts.  The only time you ever need to crack the injector lines AT THE PUMP, is typically when you do pump work.  As a side note, if the engine ran when parked, even 5-10 years ago, and the fuel hasn't gone to crap, then fresh batteries would typically start it right up, may take a little cranking to build pump pressure, but that wouldn't be much.  If you crack lines to bleed injectors that is done at the injector, not at the pump.  I am not using this one item alone to debunk the low original hours, but it is one of many observations I saw, and if I were actually looking at the tractor, I would look carefully at a lot of other things be fore I "declare" the tractor's owner a liar, right now, I am just saying something don't make sense.

 

Kurzy

 

Most of you probably cannot afford the tractor anyway so you want to run it down, and probably someone who needs a good tractor will step up, make an offer and go home with a bargain.

 

What a bunch of JOKERS !!!

 

Up until now I thought this was a wonderful forum, but NOW I am beginning to wonder !!!

 

 

 

                                           GOD BLESS AMERICA .....

Well Mr. Owen, 

You better plan on joining the crowd then, you post is no better, you call us a bunch of Jokers, and you never put in the effort to drive your butt around and meet us all.

Deal with it, we are skeptical, I don't see anyone calling them a liar, just making observations.  As I said in my post, I would want to see the tractor and check may other things BEFORE declaring them a liar.  

Fact:  Any state where a vehicle is registered if the odometer has been altered, then the mileage is legally "unknown"  Fact that tachometer has been altered. PERIOD, none of us know to what extent, but it has been altered.  They did not come from the factory with that crappy paint job on the bezel.

The next time I travel out to Hayden Co. to visit my old Army buddy I was in Korea with, I will make it a point to come by and see you, and maybe you will see that I am not what you probably think I am.

 

GOD BLESS....

 

Ya know many many times I read something you post, I think to myself, that dude is out in left field, and then I think no, he is just subject to the same misunderstanding that we all are, written words with no feeling or body language behind them, and then I find my self saying, he really didn't mean it that way.   

Now, I must say I am starting to question that "benefit of the doubt," you tell us to stop making all of these assertions, that we AREN'T making, then you make you own.  Stating I "must have a personal vendetta against the owners,"  where did you read that?  I can't find it.  Frankly you can't know what I am thinking about the owners, I have only made observations about the tractor itself, and stated an initial opinion, that I clearly stated would have to be verified by LOOKING AT THE TRACTOR IN PERSON; to your point.  To claim based on that I have a personal vendetta is ludicrous at best, in fact, I am wondering if IF IF IF IF it is in fact not a 254 hour tractor, if the dealer got taken by the original owner.  I hope it is an original hours tractor, but the world has taught me to be skeptical of too good to be true.  

Another thing, I am pleased that you make references to the Lord, but if you do so, be careful not to Judge and slander others in the same breath my friend, it makes you look like a hypocrite, even if you are not.

I took a look at this tractor today, and I personally know the owners of the dealership, they would not risk their reputation on it if the hours were not correct.  I believe the hours are correct.  Here is what i noticed.

The injector lines have not had a wrench on them, only paint peeling off from the galvanizing underneath.  The tires look like new as far as tread depth (all wheels and rims have been recently painted in my opinion).  The tin is straight (paint definitely looks better in pix, but still for a 35 year old tractor is good), the tach ring was goobered up, I am guessing to cover what was probably a rusty chrome ring.  The brake and clutch pedal had NO wear on it, the shifter rubber knobs had NO wear on them, the shifting gate for the Park/high/low had NO wear on it, the three point balls didn't look like there had ever been anything used on them at all.  I would bet my left one that the hours are correct.

Let's put this argument to bed LOL

Steve

To add information on the rims, the rear rims were replaced i heard. The calcium had leaked from rear tires and had done a real number on the rims. I would imagine the fronts were touched up, and maybe some of the rear castings. I don't see anything wrong with touching up. I get suspicious of a full repaint in situations like this, but these guys clean and touch up almost everything that comes onto their lot. They just like to have stuff look good.

 

 

Somebody mentioned that 7060 in central MI that had been on e-bay.  I've seen that one in person aboout 5 years ago, it had less than 60 hours on it then.  They are around, just like hens teeth though.

I was a consideration I thought about, tractors that sit typically develop problems shortly after being put to use.  The problem is, we don't really know how it sat.  REdline has been and now Allisforever defending this tractor and they put eyes on it.  Allisforever brought up the points I would have looked at if I had been able to look at it in person, so now I am a believer.  I don't want to beat up the dealership, was never my intention.  Anyway back to where I was going, if the tractor was run and moved say 2 hours every 3 months, then it is a good tractor, if it was run for 7.5 hours once a year, then I would be concerned, but not that much, if however it was run say 80 or so hours the first 3 years of it;s life, and the last 14 hours where selling it to the dealer, and reconditioning it, then I wouldn't touch it for more than 10K, because it could possibly have rust on trans. bearings that were not submerged in oil, or gear teeth above the oil line, that's just what happens to things that don't get used.  I am not saying it will destroy the trans, or other parts, but there is a better than normal chance it will have problems that may require a split in it's near future.  An easy way to figure this out, would be to put a bore scope down the fill tubes before even starting the tractor after a long sit, but that may not have happened.

I have not seen the tractor in person but I do business with CIFS and what is important to me is their large parts inventory. Any Gleaner part I have ever needed in season they have had. They also have a parts man, who lurks on this site, that knows just about anything about AC tractors and has helped me get parts that were no longer available OEM or aftermarket. 

Steve