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1946WP 
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Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 9:38pm |
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hooked onto the haybine today and my pto won't kick in & out . It wouldn't kick in then it kicked in but won't kick out. I think that some pin must of sheared. I guess I have to split it to repair that.any suggestions on how to split, where to support frt & rear ? what I have to drain? anything I should watch for when repairing it. I can't find my book on it, so could use some advice. WD will run the haybine ,but the 17 works alot better on the big rd baler. thanks in advance for any help.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 10:30pm |
There is a roll pin that has fell out.You can drain through plug below under clutch pedal.Open cover on side by power director.Fish old pin out of bottom with magnet if pieces do not come out when drained.Get a 5/16" bolt 2 1/2" long I believe.Get a "Safety" nut and replace roll pin with bolt and nut.Pretty tight and small hands help.I got my fat plumber fingers in there and fixed mine.
pic of side cover open
pic of shaft where pin goes
pic of roll pin
Here is bolt in place
Hope this is the problem and helps you out.When mine fell out I thought I was going to have to split the tractor to fix.Dr. Allis and others on here set me straight and I was able to fix it a couple hours.This site is a wonderful resource.
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Creek Jenkins
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 10:07am |
Bruce if you need help give me a call. I haven't had the sidecover off my D17, but I could offer moral support. I've got a manual as well if that would help. Looks like Pat is better than a manual though.
cheers,
Creek
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1946WP
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 7:20pm |
thanks guys , you were right pat, we were able to access from the side like you said but a 2 1/4 x 5/16 bolt is alittle better. one tool you forgot to use is a 12 yr old grandson. small hands sure help. gee thanks you sure saved me alot of extra work. it is back in service. 
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 9:41pm |
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Good deal WP. Glad to be of some help. I was worried I told you 2 1/2", you are right and I believe I used the shorter one like you did.
A lot of people on here a lot more experienced with this stuff than me.Dr.Allis,Mack and others helped me out last year with same problem.
12 year old grandson is a very helpful tool.Glad to see he is turning a wrench instead of playing some video game.
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 11:19pm |
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Pat - thanks for sharing those pics...I need to save them. I remember you talking about this fix and a few weeks ago I verbally shared your information with a guy on YT that e-mailed me about the same problem. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 7:22am |
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Like Don Mi had just talked about,it would be nice to have format to save posts like this for future.Manual says to split tractor to fix.Dr. allis and others saved me money,time,and aggrevation with this simple fix.I tried searching for post from last year and could not find it.
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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