Allis/Farmall/Jd/ ETC Traction Control ?

When did the different tractor manufacturers implement traction control ?

I say traction control because every manufacturer had thier own name for lifting a tillage implement to load the rear of the tractor for Traction. And subsequently lowering it back down when sensing hich was unloaded.

Allis is Traction Boost Implemented 19_ _ ?

Farmall is Draft Control implemented 19_ _?

Ford / Ferguson ???

John Deer ????

Minni Mo ?????

Oliver

Cockshutt

Etc ?

I believe Ford/Ferguson was the 1st

I'll try to keep updating this as our information in confirmed.

Let's have a fun informative thread here.



Edited by Macon Rounds - 19 Nov 2023 at 6:34pm

Ford/ Massey weren't activated by the draft. They were crushing the top link. So, pull type implements could never be used with their system.  A-C  WD 1948 true activation from the pull point.

With a Traction Booster drawbar, yes.

I think I'm correct on this, but the original Farmall "fast hitch" didn't use hydraulics or sensing to trigger hydraulics for weight transfer. They had that huge wishbone shaped device under the rear end that worked like a lever. The harder it got pulled on, the more it moved to the rear and pivoted the lifting spears up, thus in a different kind of way to transfer implement weight. I've never run one, so I can't speak to its performance. But it looks like it wasn't easily adjusted for conditions or the TERRAIN (up down hills and swales) and the fact that it was replaced (after A-C patents ran out ?) with a different way of working by the 460/560 generation, makes me think it was less than stellar. But, it was better than what they had before....nothing. Allis-Chalmers Traction Booster itself evolved too. From the beginning, pull type implements weren't in the picture and the control of the system was thru one-lever, after making some minor adjustments to the hyd pump itself. Next, was the Traction Booster gauge on the WD45 to help the operator use the system and then the Transport valve for semi-mounted implements and eventually the Traction Booster drawbar for fully pull type implements.  When the D14-17 were introduced, the Traction Booster was once again improved upon. Now, we had a two-lever system that kept your weight transfer setting locked, so when you made your turn at the fields end, it was already set when you dropped the implement back in the ground. Also, in 1959ish there was a rate-of-drop built into the lowered to make the system perform even better with larger heavier implements. When the mighty One-Ninety tractor came out in 1964, the Traction Booster system had built-in feed-back linkage to help with over sensing and keep implement depth more consistent. Again, implements were getting longer and some tweaking was made to keep ahead of competitors. Allis always had a system that could easily be changed/adjusted on-the-go from the seat. Not everyone could do that.

That is interesting.

I knew there was old and new style Fast Hich for IH but I never knew the difference.

Also I never saw a draft sensing draw bar for a Wd.

Isn't similar to the D and 100 series ?

I'll add photos of what I have.

I'll post photos of what I have.

But like most of the snap coupler equipment

The hardest thing is getting it hooked to the tractor.








Edited by Macon Rounds - 20 Nov 2023 at 11:31am

hope someones knows about the olivers and molines  i really like the oliver tractors

I like that. "And possibly break things" .......

I'm almost 70 and only heard about the "560" rear end problems probably 4 or 5 years ago. It was pretty bad, wasn't it ?? And the inner axle bearing was the culprit  ?? which was the same location M-SuM-400-450's had some troubles with when a ball would get out of the inner axle bearing and roll between the bull gear and the bottom of the rear end case. There wasn't room for that ball to be there and it would poke a hole in the bottom of the case.

Update to PaulB's post. Henry Ford died in 1947, before the 8N came out. Henry Ford II made the decision not to honor his grandfather's handshake agreement with Harry Ferguson.

According to my 450 op. manual, it's called "Traction control".

Was Moline’s Tel-O-Flo a draft control system? Or just the hydraulic system?

I believe the 4010 rear end issues (early on) were discovered by Deere in their 24-7 race track continuous day-after-day-after-day testing. The weak link was the differential carrier housing when 100% loaded continuously in LOW gear. If there was something else, I hadn't heard about it.

Yea

From all my IH friends which are MANY that system never worked very well.

Plowing in loamy soils can be done with any system.
But varying clay/ loamy soils will test the best systems. Allis if adjusted properly will plow thru it all......

Not being brand favorable.
But IH didn't hold a candle to Allis Tracton Boost which is still viable in today's small farms.

Edited by Macon Rounds - 22 Nov 2023 at 7:52pm