#2 diesel vs #2 furnace heating oil?

Burn bio diesel. Create demand

I don't get guys that moan about low soybean/corn prices and complain about using bio-diesel/Ethonal.

I'd rather payless to run a tractor while also using up our product

Mike Plotner wrote: I don't get guys that moan about low soybean/corn prices and complain about using bio-diesel/Ethonal. I'd rather payless to run a tractor while also using up our product

Don't think the heating oil has the additives to protect your pump and injectors from damage

Lon, I owned a farm fuel business for years.   There is a great difference between #2 diesel and fuel oil. You should be using a premium #2 diesel in everything on the farm. Premium #2 diesel has a higher cetain rating than #2 fuel oil. #2 fuel oil has less additives than #2 truck stop fuel. There is no anti algecide in #2 fuel oil or #2 truck stop diesel. There are no lubricating additives in #2 fuel oil, something you need for today's close tolerances in pumps and injectors. If you decide to use #2 fuel oil you will see more black smoke going up the pipe. Black smoke is unburned fuel.

Edited by 200Tom1 - 15 Jun 2019 at 8:11pm

I know the bio diesel left alot of scummy crap in the bottom of a D17D tank and Dads 922b cat loader. I would only run heating oil in the old equipment.

I never had such algae problems in my life as when I was running bio diesel in my remote generators. I had to switch to what the dealer called "stove oil" in order to get a fuel that didn't contain any bio products. In a nutshell: No problems at all were encountered after making the switch. None in the five years I witnessed after making the switch. I'll have to ask if they've encountered any problems the next time I call my old workplace for my usual updates.

I haven't

WF owner wrote: I never heard of "truck stop fuel" before. I thought fuel from truck stops was premium diesel. Has anyone else heard of truck stop fuel ?

“Truck stop fuel” is generic lowest cost fuel, without any additives of any kind. Many truck stops have this and also have a dedicated pump for premium diesel. Back when fuel was less than $1 a gallon, I found the 2-3 cents a gallon extra that Southern States charged at the time for their premium diesel, restulted in increased fuel miles that saved money overall.

Mike Plotner wrote: No one should be forced to run anything, but I'm willing to bet you'd complain about the cost of straight petroleum diesel. And they guys saying I run new engines, I don't, I have a 7060, 7000, One-Ninety, 4620 and a R42. Changing filters every year and maybe adding some additive is still cheaper than buying non biodiesel firbthe amount of gallons I burn all year. Plus, I even run ethonal occasionally in my '82 F-350 and '83 LTD, along with my gas tractors Lonn wrote: Mike Plotner wrote: I don't get guys that moan about low soybean/corn prices and complain about using bio-diesel/Ethonal. I'd rather payless to run a tractor while also using up our product ok so you weren't joking. Now neither am I. Biofuel sucks, ruins pumps, clogs tanks, lines and filters with bacteria. I don't care if you use it, good for you. Why am I FORCED to use an inferior fuel that wrecks my fuel system, a fuel I don't want to use? Just answer that question Mike. Or Mike, are you going to moan and complain over the fact that I don't want that crappy fuel forced on me?

Well Mike I'm through with you. I ask a simple question and you call me a moaner and complainer. Idiots like you can keep your opinion to yourself next time I ask for opinions on the farm equipment forum. I gained zero knowledge from you other than that you are a prick.

I don't care about emissions, I'd like to have a use for the millions of tons of soybeans we grow every year.

My fuel supplier adds algecide to the blend to prevent it. I also put many hours on my tractors without issues directly from biodiesel use

steve(ill) wrote: I think a lot depends on your location, supplier, addatives, and humidity/ weather for YOUR FUEL............ I have been running Ethanol in EVERYTHING for 30 years and never ONE PROBLEM... don't know why.... others have had problems........ but its a fact for me.

I've been running bio in my D17D since I got it. All bio diesel you buy is not created equal though. I only get my tractor fuel from Heartland Co Op. Their bio is only blended with soy oil. The same with Key Co Op here in central Iowa. Elsewhere like convenience stores and truck stops there's no telling what it is. Bio made with animal fat is poor quality in my experience and nearly impossible to keep from gelling in cold weather. I can say if you have either a Heartland or a Key co op, they are good quality fuel. The city of Newton IA Fire and Rescue dept buys their fuel at Key.

The "Greens" are winning.  Here in NYS home heating oil is more expensive than over the road diesel in Ohio or anyplace further south.  The Greenies don't care, most don't know where it comes from or what it is!!!!!!

I farm and raise corn and soybeans.  But I don't understand why that means that we should support inferior fuel.  If we need to burn our crop to increase prices maybe the American farmer, myself included, needs to learn to diversify our crop production.   Saying that we need to create bio diesel from soybeans to create a demand because of over production just doesn't make sense to me.  "This is an easy one, economically. Biodiesel is very expensive, relative to petroleum diesel," says Scott Irwin, an economist at the University of Illinois, who follows biofuel markets closely. He calculates that the extra cost for biodiesel comes to about $1.80 per gallon right now, meaning that the biofuel law is costing Americans about $5.4 billion a year.