Gleaner R 50/7 steering help

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   Looking at getting some adjustments done and fixing things on the combines this year. One thing is the steering completely different on both combines.
On the R7 its easy to steer, the wheels will turn at idle setting still, but it is squirrelly in the field and is hard to keep it straight. Its even worse going down the road. The cylinder has a slight amount of dirt colection on the outside seal, is it time for a rebiuld?
On the R50 the wheels wont turn at all no matter how fast the engine is running even once the oil is warmed up. Seems like its got alot worse over the years. Then every once in a while harvesting the steering goes from being somewhat hard to steer to really easy and the steering collum heats up to where its really hot. Also gets a different noise when its steered, then it will go back to being harder to turn. Is the oil cooler not working or something in the obital motor? Both combines have RWA, the 50 is a gilcrest, the 7 is an allis. Any help is appreciated!

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Daehler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Nov 2010 Location: Lexington MO Points: 1159	Post Options Post Reply Quote Daehler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Gleaner R 50/7 steering help Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 5:23pm
	Looking at getting some adjustments done and fixing things on the combines this year. One thing is the steering completely different on both combines. On the R7 its easy to steer, the wheels will turn at idle setting still, but it is squirrelly in the field and is hard to keep it straight. Its even worse going down the road. The cylinder has a slight amount of dirt colection on the outside seal, is it time for a rebiuld? On the R50 the wheels wont turn at all no matter how fast the engine is running even once the oil is warmed up. Seems like its got alot worse over the years. Then every once in a while harvesting the steering goes from being somewhat hard to steer to really easy and the steering collum heats up to where its really hot. Also gets a different noise when its steered, then it will go back to being harder to turn. Is the oil cooler not working or something in the obital motor? Both combines have RWA, the 50 is a gilcrest, the 7 is an allis. Any help is appreciated!
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tbran Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3518	Post Options Post Reply Quote tbran Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 5:54pm
	Per your description - steering cylinder piston seal shot on the R on the R50 depending on sn I would first check the steering priority pn 71368977 there are two types - probably trash and a stuck spool limiting the supply to the orbit motor at times. The steering valve will run hot on R 50's -clean out the hyd cooler on the engine and check the air pressure in the cooling box on the engine - if the fan blade tips are eroded the cooling will be adversely effected...
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MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 9:43pm
	Have saw hoses come apart on inside restricting flow of oil. Check toe in on rear wheels. Can make a lot of difference. MACK

Daehler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Nov 2010 Location: Lexington MO Points: 1159	Post Options Post Reply Quote Daehler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Apr 2018 at 8:53pm
	Thanks for the info.One wheel is pointed in a little, the other one is straight. Would i make the adjustment on the cylinder? Also the fan on the 50 is worn so i know its cant be cooling as good as it should.
	8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more! "IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!"