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    Posted: 27 May 2022 at 7:15pm
Do any of you guys have you guys have your name in the pot at your local dealer for this electric grocery getter ?
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are you thinking about trading in your 20 year old rusted out Lumber Wagon ?
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Nope, thinking about YOU WinkClap !!!
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Does the brew oval fade in it as the battery runs down?
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In all honesty, the main chassis/cab  of the '05 is rust free, it's the  steel service body that will be the downfall to this "mechanically sound" Ford product
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just think of all the GAS you will save when your setting at the RR crossing, watching the 200 car PARKED TRAIN !!  Wink
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Sadly, I found out that BOTH of the calipers on the rear of my buggy have been locked up for "who knows" how long and since repairs, my MPG has gone from 10 to 12 Embarrassed
I "SIT" at a RR crossing, I don't "set" BTW Clap
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but apparently you can't SET your brakes while you SIT ?  Clap
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

but apparently you can't SET your brakes while you SIT ?  Clap

He's been set on stupid, for as long as I have observed him...LOLBeer
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Stop "observing " me then Clap !! I don't recall any worthwhile answer to any of my questins in recent years anyhow Wink 
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yet... you STILL cant take a HINT ??? Wink   Clap
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Do any of you guys have you guys have your name in the pot at your local dealer for this electric grocery getter ?

Not me. Gonna have to make decision on the ‘ol Suburban this summer. Floor is getting spongy under drivers feet, transfer case has a slight leak, rear ac doesn’t work, drivers door latch doesn’t work from the inside. Just don’t know if it’s worth it. Wanna try and find a pickup thats old enough that it doesn’t have the government third eye, but still in good shape.
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Stop "observing " me then Clap !! I don't recall any worthwhile answer to any of my questins in recent years anyhow Wink 

One can't help observing loud noises and bad odors...Wink
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A Lightning will be coming to my driveway ,hopefully in the near future. One of my brother's 'gigs' is to do 'test drives and reports'. gets all sorts of vee-hick-les to 'use and abuse'.
The last one here was the e-Mustang..POS.
The big issue with them is cost of batteries. F-150 EL pack, small one is about $18000 to 'remove and replace' every  8 years. While the technology is nice(not impressive) HOW it'll last in salty Ontario remains to be seen.
The other is RANGE.You can only get just under 240 miles on a charge.No passenger,co cargo, no trailer behind you.
Pet peeve for me, seems ONLY 4 door,4wd available.
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The big issue with them is cost of batteries. F-150 EL pack, small one is about $18000 to 'remove and replace' every  8 years. While the technology is nice(not impressive) HOW it'll last in salty Ontario remains to be seen.
The other is RANGE.You can only get just under 240 miles on a charge.No passenger,co cargo, no trailer behind you.
Pet peeve for me, seems ONLY 4 door,4wd available.

How can anybody justify buying a vehicle that has an $18,0000 repair bill every 8 years.  If a person keeps a truck for 16 years,(not unusual), they are faced with a $36,000 cost in addition to the acquisition cost.  I saw the base unit is priced around $60,000.

So lifetime cost is around $96k not including insurance/operating/repair costs. 😲😲😲

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How ?
Easy... I've gone GREEN...saving the World,,'bad' fossil fuels.... Green is GOOD....
hard dee har har....

I've had my '97 F150 for 23 years, so 3 'battery replacements' x $18 is FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS... That alone will buy a brand new F-150 with economical gas engine in it....

I know of a local guy tossing batteries into a newer Mini... than kinda makes sense....
just not cents.!
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First Hand knowledge of Three Tesla Owners from Day One with the first sold, TWO have had a Battery Change, NOT Warranty as Hours of Service went beyond the Warranty Schedule.  Seems the Battery System has a Meter that derives 'Usage Time' even during Recharges, so that $18K is Chicken feed as these were well above $22k with the Labor in Shop to perform. Third one is just coming due and the owner has already spoke to the Tesla Distributor here, $23,600 NOW.  ALL are 2009 models and received ONE Warranty Battery Swap.  Do NOT see Eight Year Lifespan due to Deep Cycling batteries.

Hybrids, am aware of Four that are sitting, Batteries will not accept sufficient charge to drive for any length of time, Small gas engine is pretty well at limits when Battery Charge gets low so piddly poor economy.  Battery Swap on a Honda Prius $16500, for a Nissan leaf $17200, REQUIRES all cables and associated relays be replaced as well as battery to receive even a Year Replacement Warranty.

Fully Functional with NEW Battery NONE of these EV or Hybrid will Bluebook for more than $18,000 Retail.


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What is the carbon footprint of one of those batteries?
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Between Mining, Manufacture, the current INABILITY to Recycle, MASSIVE.
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My 2013 F150 is 4 wheel drive, 6 speed, has close to 400 HP, gets 20 MPG at 58 MPH and 15.5 MPG at 77 MPH....... and ITS PAID FOR!!............ Think i will set this one OUT ! Wink
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Buddy of mine just said he's going to buy an electric truck just as soon as Joe Biden gets an electric air force one.
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Steve, my 2013 F150 Supercab 4X4 with the 5.0 and 3.73 gears has similar fuel mileage and plenty of power.  On the rare occasion, the mileage computer will register 21-22 mpg for the tank (probably downhill with a tail wind).  Probably going to keep it for a long time since only has 121,000 on the odometer.
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apparently every ford dealer has to take at least one of the E trucks. but now the company says if they sell that one truck, they will get fined by the factory. don't say how much the fine is, but now the factory wants to put the E trucks on line sales only with a no haggle price. the factory said they caught one dealer with their E truck that listed for under $40,000. and the dealer was trying to sell it for about $150,000. factory put the kabatches to that! they sound like an over sized golf cart to me!
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My local dealer told me they can't order them. Ford has temporarily shut off the orders. He claims they have had a lot of interest in them and can't give a manufacture/delivery date, so Ford has shut down orders until they catch up.
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All the auto manufacturers are still having trouble getting vehicles out the doors, and lots of dealers are jacking up prices in response. We looked at a new Ford F250 or F350 and in either case the dealership was charging $30,000 over sticker price! According to the salesman the trucks we looked at were lease trucks with less than 300 miles on them, so they were no longer considered new trucks. We drove an F350 with almost all of the options which the original sticker was $80,000, but the salesman thought he could get us into the truck for $105,000! I took a hard pass on that one!
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I guess I bought my 2021 F-350 at a good time. I had planned to order in April to get delivery after the snow and ice season. In early March, Ford sent me a "returning customer coupon" for $2500 off my best negotiated price. 

Since I had decided to trade and I had "built" my new truck online (several times), I went in, made a deal on my trade-in and ordered the new truck. That was early March. My new truck came in in mid-April. I was out of town and picked it up on April 20. 

When I was picking it up, the dealer told me that trucks were getting hard to get and I was lucky I ordered it when I did. I thought he was making me feel good about ordering, but it turned out that it was truer than I would have ever believed.

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Originally posted by Lars(wi) Lars(wi) wrote:

Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Do any of you guys have you guys have your name in the pot at your local dealer for this electric grocery getter ?

Not me. Gonna have to make decision on the ‘ol Suburban this summer. Floor is getting spongy under drivers feet, transfer case has a slight leak, rear ac doesn’t work, drivers door latch doesn’t work from the inside. Just don’t know if it’s worth it. Wanna try and find a pickup thats old enough that it doesn’t have the government third eye, but still in good shape.
Shucks Lars, that sounds to me like you just getting it broke in! That's how Fords come new! They even have a pre-rust option (the rusting process is started during manufacturing) that seems rather popular. 
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Just heard the new lightnin truck has the option of a built-in coffee maker...

Its a mach-e-auto!  Wink
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You guys sound like you did in 2017 predicting the doom and gloom of the aluminum bodies. Now everyone has at least some aluminum panels. 
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For most city dwellers, if the husband and wife both work, they need two vehicles. To me the Ford Lighting makes sense. The guy wants a pickup to be able to hauls things, so he has a pickup. If the truck gets charged to 60% every night, that will still get you 150 miles, which will get most people to work and back. There are a number of companies putting in charging stations for employees to be able to charge their vehicles while work. If I was in that situation, I would consider one.
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