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DM...did a quik googling.... first 'hit' I went to...


are these what you need ??? if not, seems newer doors may fit as those parts good for several years.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2022 at 11:45am
Need complete Door assemblies, entire inner frame as well as skins issues, no one carries and hinges changed as well position of hinges to not allow newer doors to hang, Planned Obsolescence.
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Finally located a company that sells Door 'Shells' besides the Ford Dealers, turns out ARE Ford Door Shells just at a independent sales company called TASCA.  Not glad I found them as are close to $600 EACH for any of the four on a super cab PLUS freight.  Then need seals $125 EACH, and who knows what else Inside.  Then also need fenders and rocker/cab corner kits.  Truck bed is shot so would need a small flatbed for it.

So far price tag to get the body structurally sound is looking like $7-9 Grand, without Paint or any hidden issues.  Then Still have to assemble the whole works and keep that 7.3 as well the auto trans and 4wd working.  DEEP in thoughts right now as truck outright sales is just at $7000 as is.


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One way to look at it  is...
...can YOU actually BUY a similar truck for $10 K, or even $15K ??

While I'm in a position that I can afford to buy a brand new F150 XLT fancy machine(even a battery powered one) I LIKE my old ride. A '97 F150 XLT with about 70K miles on it. Yes it needs some 'fixin up', but I can toss $1K every year, heck 2K every year for the next 2 decades and STILL be ahead moneywise. Big bonus is NOT having to deal with all that fancy computer KRAP and 'gadgets'.

Yeah I sat 'on the fence' for about  a year, decided to KEEP and fix my truck. You should write down on paper what it needs and costs  in column 'A' then what replacement truck will cost in column 'B'.
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as we have said many times... To BUY and WHAT to BUY are WANTS... not what you actually NEED..
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

One way to look at it  is...
...can YOU actually BUY a similar truck for $10 K, or even $15K ??

While I'm in a position that I can afford to buy a brand new F150 XLT fancy machine(even a battery powered one) I LIKE my old ride. A '97 F150 XLT with about 70K miles on it. Yes it needs some 'fixin up', but I can toss $1K every year, heck 2K every year for the next 2 decades and STILL be ahead moneywise. Big bonus is NOT having to deal with all that fancy computer KRAP and 'gadgets'.

Yeah I sat 'on the fence' for about  a year, decided to KEEP and fix my truck. You should write down on paper what it needs and costs  in column 'A' then what replacement truck will cost in column 'B'.
So, at 2800 miles per year, you ain't exactly what I would call a typical vehicle conumer.LOL  No wonder ya' got all that money!  What ya' going to do, take it with ya?LOL

Funny thing is, I remember in '97 when guys griped about all the new stuff on vehicles!!!LOLLOLLOL


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re: what I would call a typical vehicle consumer.

hmm, looking back I've had it and from memory...
86 F150, 77 F100,67 stang fb, 67 stang conv,67 stang conv(yeah 2),76 cj5,75 cj5,73 cj5,78 cherokee, 57 willys pu, 58 willys stnwgn,57 willys sed del,56 chev sedan del,58 willy pu,68 dart,73 jeep commando,76 ? mustang,85 toy van, 72 honda cb125, honde cb450-2,cb450-4,yam xt225...probably a couple I've missed.
While living in 3br apt, had 7 of them lic and ins ......

..sigh, I miss the good ol' dayze !

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Was there a point to all of that?  
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Originally posted by Wispitfiremike Wispitfiremike wrote:

Many of the features of new are driven by past insurance claims paid out from accidents. as well as regulation, foisted on the public, often, but not always dubious ROI After a company loses a lawsuit they find a way to idiot proof it until the next time somebody wrecks something. Some are pretty easy to get used to but others like the new gas cans are a serious pain in the keister.
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my thoughts.
TBone has pointed out, more than once on this thread, and rightly so, economics 101, market (demand and competition), determines selling price, not cost.

No one manufactures over the road tractors...well Mack may be the exception. Pete, KW, etc assemble trucks from off the shelf parts and/or subassemblies. And, many that are produced are to customer specs. That may explain, at least in part, the spaghetti bowl of wires and cables in new trucks. The CAN BUS does save weight/cost on the passenger vehicle fleet, results may vary elsewhere.

A lot of what we see on new vehicles that add cost and complexity, air bag, intelligent valve stems, side lights, occupant restraints, daylight headlights, side marker lights, pollution controls, right side mirrors, etc result from Federal regulation.
Air-conditioning actually increases fuel milage. So, I think that is why I insist on air-conditioning in my vehilcles.....ya, I'm saving fuel. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
And the concert quality stereo system, well that is a necessary safety system! If I turn that up, I cannot hear all the horns beeping at me, so I avoid potential road rage situations. And the power windows? well, necessary to quicker response to those horn honkers I DO happen to hear! Power steering, and Power brakes....well I think they speak for themselves. Upgraded engine package? The better to intimidate the little foreign 'roller skates' with the fart can exhausts. Oh, and the marker light package? to be seen, of course, and besides when I slide down out of the cab, it makes me look like I am driving a big truck, adds to the swagger! real important


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well i stand corrected LOU... THose are not WANTS... You "NEED" those things !!!  Wink  Thumbs Up
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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PACCAR(KW and Pete) does build the truck chassis and cab from ground up, suspension is a purchase as are axles and power train where Mack just closed their transmission facility to buy Less Expensive off the shelf gear train.  Nearly every small component for ALL trucks come from a outside supplier that also molds in PACCAR or KW or Pete or Mack etc etc etc.

No 'Need' or essential purpose except to over complicate the machines where requires SPECIAL tooling and Access Codes that ONLY the Dealers are allowed (Right to Repair Laws are crushing that), it also delineates Specialty Components ONLY available thru a Dealer or Manufacturer leading to where we are now, Dealer Lots PACKED with Warranty repairs to these elaborate garbage piles that will not run as the electronics will not speak to each other with limited parts resources causing further loadings, cars and light trucks are headed that way, Farm Equipment has been there awhile.


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if it has hair or computerization...your going to have trouble with it!
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I thought that was teets or tires ? Wink
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And Tracks!!!  
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